WHEN HER “MISTAKE HIDES REVOICE ORIGINS AND IMPACT IN THE SBC AND CREDITS ALBERT MOHLER AS “SOUNDING THE ALARM ” OVER REVOICE -IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RESPOND AS IF THE CONCERNS ARE UNFOUNDED “CONSPIRACY THEORY “.
VALID CONCERNS EXIST GIVEN BASHAM’S HISTORY WITH MOHLER OVER REVOICE IN JULY 26 2018…THE DAY REVOICE WAS LAUNCHED. MOHLER /SBTS/ERLC ROLES WERE SIMPLY IGNORED AND DISMISSED FROM THE TALKING POINTS ON REVOICE EARLY ON. NOW “MEGAN’S MISTAKE” DOES THE SAME.
FACTS AND TIMELINES ARE THE FOUNDATION OF REAL RESEARCH ON WHO WAS FOR SALE & WHO HAS BEEN BOUGHT.
Rev Thomas Littleton
8/10/2024
(NOTE -This THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER author is particularly qualified to speak to the importance of the Revoice LGBTQ Christianity movement & controversial connections to SBTS and Albert Mohler and its early endorsement by members of the ERLC Fellows. Later Collins book WAS USED by Russell Moore’s crew in the ERLC “Parents Guide to Teaching your Children About Gender”. This THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER author FIRST RESEARCH AND FULLY EXPOSED REVOICE IN LATE SPRING 2018 AND ITS ORIGINS IN THE SBTS/SBC and has presented the LGBTQ infiltration by activist (like those brought in by TGC and ERLC ) in apologetics meetings to over 180 churches and dozens of events.
WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT?
At the time this author was saved in the late 70s the homosexual “Christian” movements were already sweeping through and destroying entire denominations who allowed activists to control the narrative and had forced leadership and members to begin down the path of accomodation for the NEVER ENDING demands of change agent activism Only the language has changed . The tactics and end game never has.
No Chrisitan movement can survive IF IT CANNOT get it right on this MOST BLACK AND WHITE OF BIBLICAL ISSUES. So this author has always understood this issue to be THE marker for fidelity to the Word of God or failure to remain faithful to it. Culturally and Biblically there is NO BETTER guage for where a Christian movement is and where it is HEADING.)
THE HYPE AND DISAPPOINTMENT OF THE BASHAM RESEARCH BOOK.
The last several months have been buzzing around evangelical blogs and outlets about a new book “exposing” evangelical leaders who have sold out to the left. The book “Shepherd’s for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded The Truth for a Leftist Agenda” comes from a former World Magazine red carpet reporter who now works for Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire. She can be seen covering matters of evangelical concern, speaking at Founders Conferences, NATCON with Albert Mohler and frequenting Doug Wilson’s programing. Megan Basham is the authors name and her much hyped book, like much of the information in her articles, looks to be falling far short on delivering what was promised.
“REVEALING RESEARCH ” THAT IS A DECADE OLD OR MORE.
The first and most obvious reality from informed readers is that there is nothing new in the research possibly due in part to the appearance at least that it is heavily borrowed from any one of a dozen or more evangelical researchers who have covered the material in much more ACCURATELY, indepth and sweeping fashion long before Basham joined the expose genre late “in 2021”.This timeline is according to Basham in her book tour interviews.
REVOICE EXPLODED AS A CONTROVERSIAL EVENT IN SPRING (APRIL) 2018
“MEGAN’S MISTAKE”
(NOTE This author has suggested that the “mistake” Megan makes in her book “about where someone went to seminary ” is NOT insignificant though Megam laughs off concerns saying a “conspiracy theory ” has been “developing about why she made the mistake.” This was her appanently entertained response on an interview with the “Doug Wilson and Friends” PANEL after compounding concerns arose about Bashams research and mistakes in the book. Voices of concern reached a fever pitch on social media within days of its publishing and Basham took to the air to calm the flurry.
TO SEE BASHAM LAUGH OFF CONCERN AS CONSPIRACY THEORY SEE:
Shepherds For Sale / Doug Wilson and Friends with Megan Basham, CANNON PRESS ON YOUTUBE INTERVIEW.
BUT-Can the issue of where Revoice LGBTQ Christianity movement and event originated be laughably insignificant? Basham spends over 6 pages covering Revoice in which she never mentions the origins in or any ties to the SBC at SBTS and instead declares Revoice to be a Presbyterian Church in America /PCA issue and wrongly indentifies its Founder COLLINS “as attending a PCA seminary”.
How can this be considered insignificant?
WHETHER IT IS A MISTAKE OR BAD RESEARCH OR….SOMETHING ELSE- WHAT IT IS NOT -IS INSIGNIFICANT.
THE main reason the Revoice conference, promoting LGBTQ Christianity, became an IMMDEDIATELY EXPLOSIVE issue -even eclipsing the higly hyped- preview of ” #metoo comes to the SBC “story of SWBTS/ Paige Patterson accusations- was BECAUSE Revoice came out of SBTS with its FOUNDER NATE COLLINS boasting 2 degrees and teaching New Testament at Mohlers trusted Conservative Seminary.
Megan Basham “research “reports on Revoice as part of her Chapter 8 “None Dare Call It Sin: LGBTQ in the Church” under the section “Side B and a New Kind of Christian”.
Basham for some reason has chosen here to USE the talking points of the “LGBTQ Chrisitan” activist which has aways led to confusion among Believers and draws a thin line of asserted orthodoxy based on the professed “Celibacy” or “Faithfulness to biblical sexual ethic” among self identified “Gay Christians”. This is much like the 1970s activist who played the PCUSA and other mainline denominations with the “non practicing homosexual” narrative.
* Side A vs Side B is the activist creation. Basham only adds to confusion by using it.
Basham on page 219 mentions Revoice Collins connecting him to Side B, to Tim Keller and The Gospel Coalition BUT does not connect Collins to SBTS and Mohler at all.
Basham on page 220 quotes from Collins book “All But Invisibile ” which was written at SBTS as an extension of Collins controversial dissertation relating the New Testament use of the word “virgin” as some sort of proof that a “third gender option exist in the NT”. Obviously she does not mention any of this about the book or Collins work in connection to SBTS.
REVOICE SURFACED JUST AFTER TGC/ERLCS EVENT MLK/50 HAD GOTTEN SERIOUS CHRISTIANS ATTENTION BECAUSE OF ITS CLEAR FALSE RACIAL JUSTICE MESSAGE.
THE REVOICE STORY AND SBTS CONTROVERSIAL TIES HAD BECOME A MJOR STORY AMONG EVANGLEICALS BY MAY 2018 .SBC ANNUAL MEETINGS WERE SCHEDULED FOR THE SECOND WEEK IN JUNE.
THE DALLAS STATEMENT WAS ALREADY IN THE WORKS GOING INTO SBC ANNUAL MEETINGS IN DALLAS IN 2018 THE SAME TIME REVOICE IS BEING PROMOTED.
Christians, especially Southern Baptist, were on HIGH ALERT for error due to the sudden and undeniable false gospel the ERLC/TGC event MLK/50 had vomitted onto the evangelical, especially Neo Calvinist scene. The headlines which were launched by the SWBTS scandal were developing into A GLOBAL STORY leading up to a full orchestrated invasion of the SBC by the Feminist #metoo movement (though it would take years to play out).
BUT suddenly the revelations of ERLC endorsement and SBTS oigins of a A PRO LGBT+ Christian conference called “Revoice ” took CENETER STAGE. This happened against all efforts by those long in collusion with its Founder and other activist involved in the Revoice planning and launch -to downplay it… because as the well oiled narrative went- ” we need to wait see because it hasn’t happened yet.”
BASHAMS BRUSH WITH MOHLER/ REVOICE ON THE DAY IT LAUCHED IN JULY 2018
On July 26th 2018 Megan Basham and her co-host GAVE Albert Mohler their World Radio spot “The World and Everything in It” to Mohler to use as his first platform to speak to “PROBLEMS WITH THE REVOICE CONFERENCE”.
Mohler here at Revoice actual launch date , as well as in his Aug 2nd Revoice (post- event) NEVER mentions Revoice MASSIVE TIES TO SBTS or to himself.
MEGAN BASHAM IS PROVIDING HER PLATFORM TO MOHLER FOR HIS REVOICE PR.
“The World and Everything in It”
Date
07/26/2018
Hosted By
“Al Mohler: The Revoice Conference”
WORLD Radio – Al Mohler: The Revoice Conference
“MEGAN BASHAM, HOST: Today is Thursday, July 26th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from member-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Megan Basham.
NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. You probably know Albert Mohler as the president of Southern Seminary and host of the daily podcast The Briefing. But as you heard last month during our Spring Giving Drive, Mohler is also a member of the WORLD board of directors.
Now, The Briefing doesn’t run during the month of July, but he had some thoughts he wanted to share on a notable church conference that starts today.
“ALBERT MOHLER, COMMENTATOR: Even as I speak, a conference is beginning in St. Louis. It is called “Revoice,” and the name indicates the organizers’ ambition. They want to create a new “voice” for evangelical Christians on LGBTQ issues.”
“What kind of voice are they seeking?”
“A closer look at the conference indicates that they want evangelicals to accept LGBTQ identity as permanent and to welcome and celebrate LGBTQ Christians within congregations. They insist that they hold to the historic Christian Biblical ethic that restricts sexual activity to marriage, defined as the union of a man and a woman.”
“The problem arises with the conference’s use of terms like “sexual minorities” and its open embrace of identity language when it comes to sexuality.”
“Where does this lead? Well, consider this session summary from the conference. The session is entitled “Redeeming Queer Culture and Adventure.” And we are told that it asks: “What does queer culture and specifically queer literature and theory have to offer us who follow Christ? What queer treasure, honor, and glory will be brought into the New Jerusalem at the end of time?”
“That is shocking language. The organizers of the conference want to celebrate LGBTQ culture—even styled as queer culture—while claiming to hold a Biblical model of sexual morality.”
“Here is the problem: The Bible’s teaching on sexual morality is not merely a matter of do’s and don’ts – it is a comprehensive celebration of God’s gift of sexuality and God’s gift in making humanity in his image, male and female, revealed at birth. It is a vision of God’s intention in creation and His commands for how His people are to receive this gift in holiness.”
“The gospel promises that in Christ, every believer becomes a new creature. Conversion is to be followed by obedience to Christ and the ongoing divine work of sanctification. There is no way that faithful Christians can celebrate what is contrary to Christ, much less propose that any kind of sin and brokenness, including sexual sin and brokenness, will receive honor and glory in the New Jerusalem.”
“Christians are to find our identity is in Christ, and not in any pattern of temptation. Paul makes this clear in 1 Corinthians 6:11, where the Apostle speaks to the church honestly about sin, and then says, “and such were some of you.” The key word there is were. Christians do experience temptation, and each Christian has his or her own pattern of temptation, but we are not to give in to temptation, nor are we to find our identity in any temptation to sin. Our identity is in Christ.”
“That’s the key problem with this conference, but similar patterns of thinking are spreading fast. Christians must respond this challenge with both compassion and Biblical clarity.”
“For WORLD Radio, I’m Albert Mohler.”
QUESTION FOR MEGAN BASHAM-
IF SHE IS THIS CLOSE TO THE CLEARLY SBTS/SBC CONTROVERSY IN 2018 RELATED TO REVOICE –
HOW DOES SHE FAIL TO KNOW-AS A RESEARCHER SELLING A BOOK ON INFLITRATION OF THE CHURCH BY ISSUES LIKE LGBTQ- THAT REVOICE ORIGINS IN THE SBC, AT SBTS ARE THE REASON IT IS SUCH A SIGNFICANT STORY?
ON PAGES 223 AND 224 BASHAM MAKES HER CASE THAT REVOICE IS A PCA ISSUE.
MEGAN IS WILLING TO ASSOCIATE TIM KELLER AND THE PCA ALONE WITH THE REVOICE CONTROVERSIAL MOVEMENT . INDEED THE REVOICE MOVEMENT WAS AND IS DEEPLY ENTRENCHED IN THE COVENANAT THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY /CTS OF THE PCA BUT IT’S FOUNDER AND DEVELOPMENT IN SBTS IS NEVER MENTIONED
PAGE 223
BELOW -NOT ONLY DOES BASHAM CONTINUE TO DRIVE HOME THE PCA OWNERSHIP OF THE REVOICE PROBLEM -BUT CLEARLY MISTAKENLY OR THROUGH POOR RESEARCH OR THORUGH BAD MEMORY OR THROUGH SOME OTHER UNTHINKABLE CHAPTER COLLABORATION FAILS TO MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT REVOICE ORIGINS OUT OF- AT THE HEART OF THE CONTROVERSY IN SBTS/SBC . MIND BLOWING.
PAGE 224
WHAT DOES MEGAN BASHAM SAY ABOUT MOHLER IN RELATION TO REVOICE?
INSTEAD OF MAKING AN ACCURATE CONNECTION OF REVOICE TO MOHLER/SBTS DURING THE BOOK RESEARCH OR EVEN SINCE THE PROBLEM /MISTAKE WAS EXPOSED- MEGAN BASHAM DISMISSES THE CONCERN AND CHOOSES TO LET HER HIGH PRAISE OF MOHLER’S PUBLIC RELATIONS RESISTANCE TO REVOICE BE CHAMPIONED
“MOHLER SOUNDED THE ALARM ” ABOUT REVOICE
Page 221 Megan Basham drowns Albert Mohler and his disciple Denny Burk with HIGH PRAISE FOR “AS SOON AS SOME OF REVOICE IDEAS BECAME KNOWN… THEY SOUNDED THE ALARM.”
Actually Revoice Nate Collins had been at SBTS for 14 1/2 years , was a Garrett Fellow and taught New Testament there. His father Chip also taught at Boyce and in SBTS network, as both father and son worked in a “ministry ” called “Aligned Grace” to promote the healthy relationship of a father to his “gay son”.
ALSO Nate Collins academic papers WERE PRESENTED as part of SBTS participation with other SBTS leaders like Burk and activist like Master’s Seminary Preston Sprinkle at ETS , Evangelical Theological Society as early as 2015 . They had all heard the papers presented and did social media backslapping and congratulations over the content as SBTS featured papers .
YET MEGAN BASHAM ISSUES THIS BOLD ENDORSMENT OF SBT/MOHLER/ BURK ALARM
THE MASSIVE FACT FINDING FAILURE BY MEGAN BASHAM
Before dedicatiing a section of Chapter 8 including over 6 pages in her book to Revoice and attributing it solely to the PCA- Megan could- should- would have found ALL THE FOLLOWING by a mere type and click about the founder of Revoice .
NATE COLLINS PROFESSIONAL PROFILE
Nate Collins
3rd degree connection3rd
President and Founder of Revoice
President and FounderPresident and FounderRevoice.usRevoice.usMar 2018 – Present · 6 yrs 6 mos
Ministry AssociateMinistry AssociateThe Sight MinistryThe Sight MinistrySep 2013 – Present · 11 yrsSep 2013 to Present · 11 yrsGreater Nashville Area, TN
- Online Teaching AssistantOnline Teaching AssistantAug 2015 – May 2018 · 2 yrs 10 mosAug 2015 to May 2018 · 2 yrs 10 mosLouisville, Kentucky AreaLouisville, Kentucky Area
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- Creating online learning assessments, engaging with students in discussion forums, compiling and assigning final course grades
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Instructor of New Testament InterpretationInstructor of New Testament InterpretationJul 2015 – Jun 2016 · 1 yrJul 2015 to Jun 2016 · 1 yrLouisville, Kentucky Area
Garrett FellowGarrett FellowAug 2014 – May 2016 · 1 yr 10 mosAug 2014 to May 2016 · 1 yr 10 mos
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- Responsibilities include grading class assignments, corresponding with students regarding course requirements, assisting with teaching responsibilities as needed
Member of the BoardMember of the Board
LOVEboldlyLOVEboldlySep 2013 – Jan 2018 · 4 yrs 5 mosSep 2013 to Jan 2018 · 4 yrs 5 mosLexington, Kentucky AreaLexington, Kentucky Area
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- I am happy to serve as the Traditional Community Liaison for LOVEboldly, a non-profit organization that provides resources to churches and individuals regarding LGBT-related issues.
Education
The Southern Baptist Theological SeminaryThe Southern Baptist Theological SeminaryPhD, New TestamentPhD, New Testament2010 – 2017
The Southern Baptist Theological SeminaryThe Southern Baptist Theological SeminaryMaster of Divinity (MDiv), TheologyMaster of Divinity (MDiv), Theology2003 – 2009
MEGAN BASHAM NEEDS TO RESEARCH BEFORE SHE PUBLISHES A RESEARCH BOOK INCLUDING A CHAPTER ON LGBTQ INFILTRATION IN THE CHURCH.
MORE MEGAN MISSED OR MIGHT FIND TOO INCONVENIENT TO REPORT IF LABELING REVOICE A PCA/ KELLER PROBLEM ONLY.
THE REVOICE FOUNDERS SBTS ACADEMIC PAPERS ARE PUBLIC RECORD.
SOME OF THE TITLES INCLUDING HIS BOOK WHICH BASHAM MENTIONS OMITING THE FACT IT WAS WRITTEN AT SBTS
All But Invisible: Exploring Identity Questions at the Intersection of Faith, Gender, and Sexuality
SBTS PROFILE – “Collins specializes in the intersection of NT Studies, gender, and sexuality, and is the president and founder of Revoice.”
ACADEMIC REFERENCES
Thomas R. Schreiner
Professor of New Testament Interpretation
Associate Dean of the School of Theology
Southern Seminary
tschreiner@sbts.edu
(502) *** ****
TEACHING EXPERIENCE
The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Instructor of New Testament Interpretation 2015-16
“Elementary Greek Grammar” and “Greek Review”
Taught two graduate-level courses (approx. 30 students each) covering all introductory
elements of Koine Greek grammar, administered and graded all learning assessments,
provided outside-the-classroom help to underperforming students, assessed students’
qualifications to continue graduate-level study of Greek beyond the elementary grammar stage.
The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Guest Lecturer – “Counseling and Sexuality” 2015
Delivered three hours of guest lectures on the subject of LGBT issues and Christian
counseling.
RELATED EXPERIENCE
The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Online Teaching Assistant 2013 – Present
“New Testament Survey I” (undergraduate) and “Introduction to the New Testament I”
(graduate)
Create undergraduate and graduate level courses in online learning management system; Interact with students via discussion forums and email correspondence; evaluate learning outcomes and coach students based on demonstrated needs
“Secondary Gender Identities in the Biblical World” 2016
Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the Society for Biblical Literature
(San Antonio, TX)
“Theological Perspectives on Non-Straight Sexuality, Gender Identity, and Sanctification” 2015
Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the Evangelical Theological Society
(Atlanta, GA)
“Ethnosexual Particularity and Secondary Gender Identities” 2014
Paper presented at the Evangelical Theological Society
(San Antonio, CA)
“Embodiment, Relationality, and the Construction of Gendered Identities” 2013
Paper presented at the Evangelical Theological Society
(Baltimore, MD)
SBTS DISSERTATION
“VIRGIN” AS SECONDARY GENDER IDENTITY IN
1 CORINTHIANS 7 AND ITS JEWISH AND
GRECO-ROMAN BACKGROUND”
CONCLUSION –
THE ERLC SEES THE REVOICE FOUNDERS SBTS BOOK AS SO SIGNIFICANT THAT IT IS THE GOLD STANDARD QUOTED/REFERENCED BY THE ERLC :
A Parent’s Guide to Teaching Your Children About Gender
Helping Kids Navigate a Confusing Culture
December 03, 2020
Starting on page 47 of the footnotes:
4 See Nate Collins, All but Invisible: Exploring Identity Questions at the
Intersection of Faith, Gender, and Sexuality, (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2017), 208.
7 Collins, All but Invisible, 212.
23 Collins, All but Invisible, 218–19.
26 Collins, All but Invisible, 220. Also see Walker, God and the Transgender
Debate, 33–35.
38 Collins, All but Invisible, 9.
“ERLC’s Andrew Walker, SEBTS/ Liberty Universities Karen Swallow Prior and Russell Moore himself are also used as sources for the “Parents Guide to Teaching Your Children About Gender”.
NOTE THIS WAS WELL AFTER THE REVOICE 2018 CONTROVERSY WHERE ERLC FELLOWS HAD ENDORSED THE FIRST EVENT. ERLC UNDER MOHLER DISCCIPLE RUSSELL MOORE -WHO BASHAM IS “EXPOSING” IT STILL PROMOTING REVOICE FOUNDER TO PARENTS
FULL FACTUAL RESEARCH ON ERLCs CONTINUED ENDORSEMENT /USE OF REVOICE FOUNDERS SBTS DEVELOPED BOOK- is HERE at the link below.
MEGAN BASHAM WANTS TO DOWNPLAY HER “MISTAKE” ABOUT COLLINS “PCA SEMINARY ATTENDANCE AND GRADUATION.
AND MEGAN WANTS TO LABEL HONEST CONCERN ABOUT HER “MISTAKE” OR POOR RESEARCH OR OTHERWISE OMISSION OF THIS IMPORTANT RESEARCHED /DOCUMENTED FACT AS A “CONSPIRACY THEORY”?
WHAT DID MOHLER KNOW ABOUT REVOICE ORIGINS ? WHEN DID HE KNOW REVOICE WAS CONTROVERSIAL ?
MOHLER HAD TO KNOW COLLINS WORK FOR HIM AT SBTS.
AND HE KNEW IT WAS A MASSIVE CONTROVERSY BY THE 26TH OF JULY 2018 WHEN IT WAS LAUNCHED AND HE USED MEGAN BASHAMS FORMAT AT WORLD RADIO TO ADDRESS IT – WHILE LIKE MEGAN ? -FAILING TO MENTION ??? IT’S SBTS ORIGINS.
ALBERT MOHLER PRESENTS THE FOUNDR OF REVOICE HIS SBTS DOCTORATE 2017
SOMETHING FAR WORSE IS GOING ON HERE IF ALBERT MOHLER WAS CLUELESS ABOUT REVOICE TIES TO HIS OWN SEMINARY. THAT IS NOT EVNE PLAUSIBLE.
IF MEGAN BASHAM CANNOT OWN AND CORRECT THIS MASSIVE FAIL NOW- IN SOME OF HER DOZENS OF BOOK TOUR INTERVIEWS AND IN A PUBLIC APOLOGY AND STATEMENT -AND DO SO LONG BEFORE A “SECOND PRINTING“- THEN HER RESEARCH AND CREDIBILITY ARE IN SERIOUS DOUBT.
*MEGAN BASHAM- PLEASE NO MORE DOWNPLAYING ANDACCUSATION OF CONSPIRACY THEORY – JUST MAKE AN APOLOGY FOR THE FAILURE ADN THE MASSIVE CONCERN IT LEGITIMATELY RAISES?
“THE TRUTH BECAME FLESH SO NOW TRUTH COMPELS US .”
JOHN 1: 14 “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”
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