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I am Christian in the Biblical definition .I own His name because HE is Lord and He my Hope and Stay. I was called into evangelism from day one.That was 38 years ago. He has been faithful and TRUE.I say with Peter " Jesus is the Christ the Son of the Living God". I vow to speak the truth of the Gospel daily and in this BLOG . We are living in Perilous Times 2 Timothy Chapter 3 .Blessings and thanks for reading .

Albert Mohler /ERLC Redefining Family and Forcing LGBTQUI+ Inclusion /Audit

ALBERT MOHLER, KEEP YOUR SEXUALLY-CONFUSED DISCIPLES AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES

(CHRISTIANS, THIS IS WHERE THE PERVERTED REVOICE MOVEMENT IS HEADED AS SBC CHURCHES OF MARK DEVER /TGC AND AN ERLC COUNCIL MEMBERS CHURCH PROMOTE TIM KELLER’S ABSURD AND EVIL“INCLUSION CHURCH AUDIT”)

By Rev Thomas Littleton                                                                                                                    9/12/2018

It has long been this writer’s view that knowing the eternal love and compassion of God and His nature to forgive—to forestall judgement, acknowledge humble repentant hearts and to be, the wonderfully articulate word, “Longsuffering,” in the language of King James—that God’s judgement is best understood by what He will not tolerate. What is it that brings His divine posture to alter toward a person or a people? This author thinks to have a clue. When protecting innocents is no longer a law of a society, God’s holy anger arises. Once this level of evil is reached, the reality is that God is more merciful to judge a person or a people or a nation than to allow it to continue.

In America, the Evangelical leadership of Albert Mohler, Russell Moore, Tim Keller, The Gospel Coalition, The Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission of The Southern Baptist Convention have lately presumed to take on the task of remodeling God’s design for the family. They now attack the “Idolatry of Family” and assert we must replace it with an inclusive and expanding village Church family.  In America, the end of innocence may be at hand, bringing God’s judgement with it. Let us look soberly at where we have arrived in the parade of exhausting and relentless forced conversations and endless conferencing led by the court jesters we have allowed in leadership.

In 2014 Dr. Albert Mohler, head of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, took upon himself to deliver the Evangelical Church to the Gay Rights movement.  Mohler announced at his protégé, Russell Moore’s ERLC Conference on “The Gospel, Homosexuality and the Future of Marriage,” to the Gay Lobby they had invited in, as well as to a trusting Church, his decision to Repent of denying  what he had previously stated—that a revisionist “discovery” of  sexual orientation was giving ground to undermine the entire Biblical claim of truth.

What makes his public abasement so hypocritical is that he had declared in his own words what was at stake in HIS 2005 writings on “Homosexuality in Theological Perspective.”

In 2005, Mohler stated: “By employing circumventions, circumlocutions, and contortions the text’s meaning is revised so as to negate its judgement upon homosexuality. The critical issue used as a hermeneutical device by the revisionist is the concept of sexual orientation. The modern “discovery” of sexual orientation is used to deny the truth claim clearly and inescapably made within the biblical text.”

However, in 2014 he stated: “The concept of sexual orientation is not only helpful, it is in some sense essential. Even those who argue against its existence have to describe and affirm something tantamount to it.”

The 2014 article in which Mohler attempted to squelch the uproar over his comments in the ERLC conference did not help much, if we hold up to scrutiny his glaring contradictions, given his clear 2005 statement that the Orientation argument of the “Revisionist”/ gay lobby activist theological efforts was the foremost device in the well-defined revisionist hermeneutical effort to circumvent Biblical opposition to the normalization of homosexuality. Albert Mohler, are you not in fact giving up, and repenting of, the Evangelical stand to assert that the Word of God carries more weight in the “Theological “discussion of homosexuality than the modern construct (though scientifically unproven) concept of Orientation?  Are you not the one now practicing circumventions, circumlocutions, and contortions of the text?

MOHLER AND FRIENDS BOWING AT THE WRONG ALTARS

Altar One – The American Psychological Association

In 2010, Mark Yarhouse and Stanton Jones became the gold standard bearers for The Gospel Coalition and all its affiliates, including Albert Mohler, on all things LGBTQUI+ for the Church. Then the incrementalism began in earnest toward changing the Evangelical view of homosexuality and gender issues. This radical decision was made behind the scenes by a handful of self-appointed fellows, like Tim Keller and Albert Mohler, but has become broadly applied to us, to our churches, and to our pastors under the influence of their seminaries, writings, media and conferences. The June 2018 Living Out Conference of Keller along with July 2018 Revoice conference of long time Mohler disciple and employee at SBTS, Nate Collins, brought some of the depths of these efforts at change, and their carefully masked goals, into clearer view. Not only is sexuality and gender a prime target but so is the Christian /Biblical concept of family. And on what does the overhaul of all things Biblical in this realm have its basis?

Over the course of several years, Mark Yarhouse of Regent University and Stanton Jones of Wheaton applied the findings of the APA’s study of 200 people with unwanted same sex attraction and added a limited study of their own to conclude that sexual orientation seldom changes and therapeutic efforts within the church and ministries to change it are ineffective and likely harmful. Their additional work is discussed in this article and included just 98 people. With, according to the article, 61% of people in the study who remained involved, the findings seem to indicate the opposite—that of those involved the findings indicate significant change — “a reported 23 % success and 30% no longer self-identifying” as gay.  Yet the conclusion is that little or no significant change is possible or should be expected.  Armed with their conclusions from this study, this wing of the Christian psychological community was commissioned to then begin the work of making the Church compliant with their APA work and to try and undo human and Biblical history and reliable text.  That is truly some amazing self-importance on the part of Mohler, Keller, Moore and others as they employ and embody the language of some flimsy reasoning and hermeneutic clearly attuned to current politically correct cultural narrative and dressed in theological garb for leading you and me and our churches and families down this path of compliance.

Noted below are just some of the long established work of Yarhouse at Mohler’ SBTS and other related areas on the topic of human sexuality and gender .

  Yarhouse, M. A. (2003). Applied Integration of a Sibbesian View of Assurance. The Southern Baptist Journal of Theology, 7 (4), 48-57.
  Yarhouse, M. A. (2016, April). Advanced informed consent to sexual identity therapy and gender identity consultations. Paper presented at the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors Leadership Colloquium, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Louisville, Kentucky.
 SBTS website:
Yarhouse contributed essay in 2004
In addition the Mohler associations with Yarhouse through  TGC and others in the SBC are well documented in previous writings by this author.

Altar 2 – Deconstructing the Idolatry of the Nuclear Family and converting to “IT TAKES A QUEER VILLAGE”

In the 2005 article linked above by Albert Mohler on “Homosexuality from a Theological Perspective” part two, the full quote on the Biblical cost of losing the battle over the asserted “discovery” of Orientation is drawn in part from the pro-homosexual writings of liberal Drew University School of Theology professor, Janet Fishburn. Here is the full quote “The critical issue used as a hermeneutical device by the revisionist is the concept of sexual orientation. The modern ‘discovery’ of sexual orientation is used to deny the truth claim clearly and inescapably made within the biblical text. For example, in regard to the Romans one text Janet Fishburn of Drew University Theological School argues: ‘Yet some biblical scholars point out that this passage can only refer to the homosexual acts of heterosexual persons. This is because the writers of the Bible did not distinguish between homosexual orientation and same-gender sexual acts. If this distinction is accepted, the condemnation of homosexuality in Romans one does not apply to the sexual acts of homosexual persons.’”

The seemingly confused Mohler in 2014, about his own conclusions in 2005 over the Biblical cost of adopting the unbiblical concept of sexual orientation, is one unsolved mystery. The other is that Mohler disciples like Russell Moore and Nate Collins, among other Mohler allies, are now echoing the further teachings of Janet Fishburn of Drew on Confronting and Deconstructing the “Idolatry of Family.”  Mohler is clearly not unfamiliar with Fishburn’s work or its pro homosexual assertions related to family and sexuality.  Now his own disciples are serving up these offerings of pagan origin to the Church. Fishburn insists that the construct of the modern concept of family is more rooted in the American Dream and unduly hinders and constrains the freedom of the Church to cater to other forms of family and lifestyles of the alternative seeker.  Fishburn rejects the traditional view of God as masculine and endorses the Goddess Sophia in her Drew fellow theologian’s book, The Feminine Dimension of the Divine which “demonstrates how the feminine aspect of God was repressed in Christianity. The spiritual needs and interests of both men and women have changed enough to merit a new edition of this superbly crafted, scholarly study of Sophia.”

In Part One of his 2005 “Theological Perspective,” Mohler covers the roots and goals of the homosexual movement with clarity. “What has followed has been a measured and strategic effort to win the legitimization of homosexuality, to promote homosexual themes in the media, to receive special entitlements as a legally protected class. Furthermore, the Movement has pushed for specific policy goals, such as the removal of all anti-sodomy laws, the recognition of homosexual partnerships on par with heterosexual marriage, anti-discrimination laws, and the removal of all barriers to homosexuals in the military, the academy, business, and the churches. In order to pursue these goals, the Homosexual Movement has organized itself as a liberation movement based on an ideology of liberation from oppression drawn upon Marxist foundations.”

Today Mohler has helped to lay in Evangelical landscape the same sexual liberation and Marxist foundations he exposed in 2005. His disciple, Nate Collins, advocates that Christian families attend gay pride parades and events to understand and embrace Stonewall and what PRIDE means to the LGBTQUI+ community. While in 2005 Mohler warned of its total sexual liberation efforts,” Mohler now asks, “How did this happen? The origins of the Homosexual Movement as a major cultural force must be traced to the 1969 Stonewall riots in Manhattan. Known within the homosexual community as the ‘Stonewall Rebellion,’ the riot took place as New York City police raided a homosexual bar. The patrons fought back in what would become the inaugural symbol of the ‘gay liberation’ movement. As the Village Voice reported on July 3,1969: ‘Gay power erected its brazen head and spat out a fairy tale the likes of which the area has never known …Watch out. The liberation is underway.’”

How has this radical departure from Mohler’s own understanding taken place? Clearly, he is bowing at the altars of Baal, and the saddest reflection of the problem is found in his radicalized disciples, Russell Moore, Nate Collins and others that SBTS is now producing. Yarhouse and the APA and Fishburn and Drew University are clearly playing a much more significant role today, in the shaping of the Church, the gospel, the family and discipleship, than the Word of the Living God in Mohler, Keller, and the TGC/ERLC circle.  Smearing theological jargon and some carefully nuanced verses over secular and pagan ideology does not make it Biblical or a Gospel narrative.

RUSSELL MOORE AND THE GAY PRIEST WHO WANTS TO “SHARE YOUR CHILDREN” CONFERENCE

In October 2018, the ERLC and Russell Moore will host in Dallas the “Cross Shaped Family Conference”  to which he has invited as speaker Sam Allberry, the self-professed and ever popular SSA/ Gay Priest of the Church of England. Allberry is co-founder of a ministry called “Living Out” for Gay Christians and views the nuclear family as lacking what he believes the affirming church will bring to it . In 2014 Allberry asserted the Revoice activist /Fishburn replacement theology for the “Idol ” of the Nuclear Family version in an interview with The Reformed Reader  ”  3) Remember that church is family.  Paul repeatedly refers to the local church as God’s household (i.e. 1 Tim. 3:15).  It is the family of God, and Christians should be family to one another.  Nuclear families within the church need the input and involvement of the wider church family; they are not designed to be self-contained.  Those that open up their family life to others find that it is a great two-way blessing.”

Freshly off their promotion of the radical Revoice Conference and hosting of Tim Keller and his wife Kathy for a “Gay Christianity” extravaganza in London, Living Out stepped into the global spotlight to promote a Church Audit for LGBTQ+ Inclusion as its conference legacy.

“At our Identity in Christ conference with Tim & Kathy Keller in June 2018 we launched our Living Out Church Audit – a tool to help church leadership teams answer this key question: how biblically inclusive is your church? Unsurprisingly our focus is on those who might identify as LGBTQ+/ same-sex attracted: Jesus included all in a counter-cultural way and we hope this audit will help our churches follow his lead.”

10 statements to help you audit your church family:

1 Your church family meetings include people who could be labelled LGBTQI+/ are
same-sex attracted.
True / False / Not Sure
2 Derogatory language or stereo-typing attitudes towards sexual minority groups
would not be tolerated either up-front or in conversation between church family
members. True / False / Not Sure
3 All in your church know that we all experience sexual brokenness and all are being
encouraged to confess their own sexual sins.
True / False / Not Sure
4 Same-sex sexual relationships are never mentioned in isolation from other sinful
patterns of behaviour, or from the forgiveness offered to all through faith in Christ
crucified. True / False / Not Sure
5 All in your church are encouraged to develop an identity founded first and foremost
on their union with Christ.
True / False / Not Sure
6 All in your church are hearing the same call to radical self-sacrifice of themselves in
response to God’s giving of himself in Jesus.
True / False / Not Sure
7 A godly Christian’s sexual orientation would never prevent them from exercising
their spiritual gifts or serving in leadership in your church.
True / False / Not Sure
8 God’s gifts of either singleness or marriage are equally promoted, valued and
practically supported in your church family’s life together.
True / False / Not Sure
9 Church family members instinctively share meals, homes, holidays, festivals, money,
children with others from different backgrounds and life situations to them.
True / False / Not Sure
10 No-one would be pressurised into expecting or seeking any “healing” or
change that God has not promised any of us until the renewal of all things.
True / False / Not Sure

LOCAL course outline

The day includes talks, interviews, videos and plenty of time to ask your questions.

The typical sessions that make up the course are:

Session Purpose
Understanding the cultural challenge A wake-up call to the cultural changes, why they’ve taken place and the weakness of our response so far. Question time at the end.
A biblical vision for human flourishing A bible overview setting teaching on human sexuality in the context of God’s gracious plans to redeem his people. Question time at the end.
A biblical vision for inclusive church Practical steps for churches to take to better welcome and disciple people who experience same-sex attraction. Question time at the end.
Interview & Question Time Interview with a Living Out storyteller and question panel responding to questions submitted during the day and from the floor
Next Steps & Prayer Over to you – time to think how to make the day impact where it really counts.

Given Allberry’s role in this audit and the 9th question we are fairly compelled to ask to what purpose is an SSA/ Gay Celibate priest from the Church of England being brought in to lecture Southern Baptists on “parenting and family,” Allberry’s topic for the ERLC Family Conference?  He is the Keynote Speaker for Saturday in the last meeting – the one big take away message that Russell Moore wants on the attendees’ heart and mind as they leave Dallas for home. “Keynote: The Church as the Family of God: Singleness, Same -Sex Attraction, and the Hope of Hospitality with Sam Allberry.” This is disturbing on many levels but none so much as the Audit statement referred to above which is “Church family members instinctively share meals, homes, holidays, festivals, money, children with others from different backgrounds and life situations to them.” Southern Baptists let this settle in on you. Our chief Ethicist Russell Moore is producing a “Family Conference” with the crescendo message echoing the Revoice Conference, Allberry/ Keller’s church audit and Drew University Janet Fishburn’s left wing pro-gay redefining of family from her 1991 “Confronting the Idolatry of Family :A New Vision for the Household of God.”

LIVING OUT  “BRITISH INVASION” OF AMERICAN CHURCHES

The LOCAL course day conference for church leaders is coming to the US! Registration now live for our event in Boston. Tea will be available and we’ll try not to tax you for it… Find out more here:

MARK DEVER ,CAPITOL HILL BAPTIST AND ERLC COUNCIL MEBERS GARRETT KELL ,DEL RAY BAPTIST CHURCH ADOPT ALLBERRY’S CHURCH INCLUSION AUDIT AS IT COMES STATESIDE

Living Out will soon be coming to the U.S. to conduct their Church and Leaders training course, “teaching with the tools [church audit] to help church leaders better equip their churches in exercising the gift of true welcome and hospitality for all.”  The LOCAL course will be held in the Washington, D.C. area on November 14, sponsored by the Capitol Hill Baptist Church in Alexandria, VA whose senior pastor is Mark Dever, cofounder of Together for the Gospel, and a Council member of The Gospel Coalition.

Our LOCAL Course for church leaders is crossing the pond this Fall with days in both Washington DC and Boston MA . We hope to see some of you there!

“The Living Out team will share their insight and stories as same-sex attracted Christians who hold to traditional Bible teaching on sexual ethics and who have spoken and written on this subject widely.

Living Out is delighted to be bringing you this day of training in partnership with Capitol Hill Baptist Church and Del Ray Baptist Church who are hosting the day.

We ask that all who attend assent to the Evangelical Alliance Basis of Faith and its biblical and pastoral position with respect to homosexuality, summarised in these affirmations.”

One outstanding irony about the Living Out Church Inclusion Audit first being implemented in the US at Dever’s capitol Hill Baptist is that Albert Mohler (who has played the central role in brining in this LGBTQUI+ compliance on the American church)  has family members who work in political organizations in DC who are part of this church. Is Dr. Albert Mohler really ready to share his grandchildren with the LGBTQUI+ who decide to call Dever’s church home in this new welcoming environment? It is not uncommon for those who breathe the exclusive air of the evangelical elite to force such issues on the congregants but have no interest in investing their lives and families in the harmful policies. Perhaps this is simply some quiet – but costly Divine reminder to Dr. Mohler. Will it make any difference? Meanwhile the work of TGC and the ERLC appears to be to introduce the Living Out Inclusion Audit into ALL of their affiliated churches which will include many SBC churches and most of the PCA. The institutional church is all but gone. It is time to get your families out! This warning cannot be made more honestly and with a heavier heart.

 

PCA and SBC Evangelicals, beware and hold on tight to your Biblical bearings because they are under absolute assault in the name of “the Cross and the Gospel” by some of our most popular and celebrated alleged churchmen. If your pastor – your family’s minister or, God forbid, your children’s youth minister –  is attending this conference then it may be time to call them in, inquire, and possibly send them packing if they are drinking the leftist Kool Aid of redefining family that Russell Moore is serving up. If this LGBTQUI+ train is unstoppable it may be time for all thinking people to get their families, their children, their tithes, and their bodies out of SBC, PCA and other churches under the sway of The Gospel Coalition and the ERLC.

YOUR INVITATION TO JOIN TGC’S MARK  DEVER AND ERLC COUNCIL GARRETT KELL IN THE INCLUSION AUDIT FOR YOUR CHURCH.

Note that all three of the U S Churches ( including the Boston area church ) hosting the Living Out Audit training and applying it to their congregations at part of Devers  9MARKS  circle of churches. Pastor Kell of the DC host church Del Ray Baptist is a former staffer at Dever’s Capitol Hill Baptist and was, according to Kell assigned to the Del Ray position . Kell is also the the guy who embarrassed himself at the SBC annual meeting ins Dallas by proposing an amendment to one Resolution that would rescind the invitation  to Vice President Pence who was scheduled to speak the next day. Jokes circulated the floor over the brazen attempt to by Kell to give Pence a Baptist cold shoulder was nothing more than an ERLC messenger boy wanting to twist the “Never Trump” dagger for his boss Russell Moore. The organization 9MARKS  was founded at Dever’s Capitol Hill Baptist who is also in leadership with many other planting organizations which operate in conjunction with TGC and T4G outlined here with details of leadership overlap:

TGC council: Mohler, MooreDever, Carson, Duncan — ALLBERRY is an editor. Dever is hosting his LivingOut LOCAL course.

T4G: Founded by Mohler, Dever, Duncan, Mahaney – ALLBERRY a speaker in several events: http://t4g.org/speakers/sam-alberry/
Further T4G: Garrett Kell (SBC SJW who was on staff at Dever’s Capitol Hill Baptist Church and whose church also will host ALLBERRY’S LivingOut LOCAL Course) ALSO was a T4G  speaker: http://t4g.org/speakers/garrett-kell/
Acts29 (TGC/ERLC’s Chandler): Its Australian branch is featuring ALLBERRY at 3 upcoming events in September. See Twitter handle @a29au
T4G and  9MARKS  share leader guideline and association commitments / covenants
“By checking this box, you affirm that you are in full agreement with each of the 9 Marks as described on our website and T4G’s Affirmations and Denials. Please do not click ‘I agree’ if you do not, in fact, agree with the mission and theology of 9Marks.”
Interestingly the last statement does not include agreement with T4G.

NOV 14

Living Out LOCAL Course – Washington DC

by Living Out

$20

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Living Out LOCAL Course – Washington DC

Wed, November 14, 2018, 10:00 AM – 4:30 PM EST

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Is your church Biblically inclusive?

Living Out wants to help churches understand how we can better help those who experience same-sex attraction to stay faithful to Biblical teaching on sexual ethics and flourish at the same time. On our LOCAL (Living Out Churches And Leaders) Course we will show you why many churches fail – but how the Bible wonderfully meets the challenges we all face.

The course will offer a positive biblical vision and practical steps forward as we seek to model both grace and truth in our Christ-like love for all those who experience same-sex attraction.

The Living Out team will share their insight and stories as same-sex attracted Christians who hold to traditional Bible teaching on sexual ethics and who have spoken and written on this subject widely.

Living Out is delighted to be bringing you this day of training in partnership with Capitol Hill Baptist Church and Del Ray Baptist Church who are hosting the day.

​We ask that all who attend assent to the Evangelical Alliance Basis of Faith and its biblical and pastoral position with respect to homosexuality, summarised in these affirmations.

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Venue

Del Ray Baptist Church, 2405 Russell Road, Alexandria, VA 22301. 

Date

Wednesday 14 November 2018

Time

Starts at 10am and finishes at 4.30pm

Cost

The course costs $20 per person. This includes coffee at breaks, please bring your own lunch or plan on buying lunch at one of the nearby restaurants.

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Wed, November 14, 2018

10:00 AM – 4:30 PM EST

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2405 Russell Road

Alexandria, VA 22301

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How many other SBC churches will follow this lead ? Mostly likely ALL who are TGC, T4G ACTS 29 and 9Marks affiliated . The Neo-Reformed wing of the SBC is now officially gone.

TIM “GLOBALIST SUSTAINABLITY GURU” KELLER AND HIS LONDON CONFERENCE

Tim Keller left his Redeemer Church pulpit in July 2017 and is now the globe trotting ambassador of global sustainable Christianity. Like Pope Francis, Keller appears all too willing to sign us up for the full spectrum of “thriving cites, human flourishing, urbanization, principled pluralism, common good collectivism and universalism.” Tim Keller is quickly detaching himself from his either onetime or merely perceived conservative PCA moorings.  His choice (with D.A. Carson, TGC cofounder and Albert Mohler of SBTS, as discussed above) of Mark Yarhouse to bring the APA-compliant views on LGBTQUI+ into the conservative Evangelical community, pastors, seminaries, and campus ministries in 2010 was pivotal to ushering in the new Gay wave in modern Christian Church culture.  They have made the issue and their nuanced talking points nearly inescapable.  Even CRU, Intervarsity, RUF and other campus ministries are no longer a refuge for your teens from the TGC narrative which is undistinguishable from the ideology taught in the secular cesspools of American academia. Soon your church youth group and children’s ministry will not provide refuge either, thanks in large part to these calculated and nuanced efforts.

Once Keller hit London we were all in for a surprise. His work with Sam Allberry and Ed Shaw (both of whom write for TGC) and Living Out, a “ministry for Gay Christians” has been ongoing for at least 5 years, but the game changer came in the form of the Living Out Church Audit linked above. Keller and the gay but celibate Anglican priest Allberry and Shaw are advocating for a self-imposed litmus test for LGBTQUI+ inclusion in churches. Under its confines, church pulpits and private conversations and even attitudes, either perceived or real, of a (subjective term) derogatory nature will not be tolerated in our churches. NOTE – the test for tolerance is intolerance.

Sexual minorities will never be withheld from positions of ministry or from exercising their gifts in the local church. Keller and Allberry’s audit will assure no one is ever expected to seek deliverance or healing from homosexual desires (labeled Same Sex Attraction and Sexual Minorites).

REVOICE AND THE HERD OF FAMILY RECONSTRUCTIONISTS

Tom Buck wrote a piece on Revoice in which he pointed out the disturbing statement of its founder and longtime Mohler disciple, Nate Collins. Buck asks the same questions that we must all ask, on behalf of God and our fellow believers, as we confront the forthcoming talking points in efforts to revise the family. Tom wrote, “My hermeneutical alarms went off: ‘Will he go there?’ Yes, he will.” He then quotes Collins’ radical revisionist attacks on the Nuclear Family as idolatry.

“Is it possible gay people today are being sent by God like Jeremiah to find God’s words for the church to eat them and make them our own; to shed light on modern false teachings and idolatries?”

“Is it possible that gender and sexual minorities living lives of costly obedience are themselves a prophetic call to the church to abandon idolatrous attitudes toward the nuclear family, towards sexual pleasure? If so, then we are prophets. “

Collins is only one of the voices in the echo chamber from the Revoice circle, the Evangelical Covenant Church and Michelle Sanchez, discipling and spiritual formation minister at ECC.

There is also Masters Seminary graduate Preston Sprinkle, Preston Sprinkle‏ @PrestonSprinkle Aug 9:

MoReplying to @wesleyhill @WSipling @NateCollins

“Yeah, this criticism of Nate’s statement (something I’ve said many times) is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Marriage isn’t redefined or diminished in the NT, but it’s no longer considered necessary for human flourishing. Many evangelicals don’t practically believe that.”

 

Here are some Twitter replies to Sprinkle and Wesley Hill:
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Replying to @wesleyhill @WendyAlsup @NateCollins

“Yes. You are right on. Family is an idol when it is insular and exclusive. It is a blessing and a gift when it is welcome, hospitable, and inclusive.”

 

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Replying to @wesleyhill @NateCollins

“You’re right the nuclear family is idolized, if that is a husband, wife, and two or at most three children. Contraception and a love of comfort prevent many couples from embracing larger families.

“Conservatives (esp ev’s) seem to have a preoccupation with hidden “agendas.” I’m willing to bet you can trace a lot of the over-critique re race, sexuality, etc. back to the fear of “there’s an agenda!” The “gay” agenda, the “liberal” agenda, the “slippery slope” agenda.”

The list goes on and on. This brash statement born out of the twisted halls of left-leaning Drew Theological School and other revisionist theological circles is now on the front burner and we in the churches of America, and wherever the reach of these agents of change who are redefining family extends, are simply expected to be like a 6-year old at the dinner table being told to “eat it or else.”

Collins is currently promoting one writers claims of the Idolatry Marriage

Another wonderful piece by Bridget Eileen that examines the “soulmate theology” that pervades much of cultural evangelical Christianity.

MEDITATIONSOFATRAVELINGNUN.COM
The spiritually-sanctioned version of sexual liberation preached from the pulpit today may be the most common and most championed form of sexual liberation theology in America.
Perhaps the final frontier on this effort to undermine biblical marriage, parenting and family will be their attack on “The Idolatry of Heterosexuality”? Don’t laugh -just give it a month .
Note a few other places where TGC and related writers are attacking the Idolatry of the Nuclear Family and of marriage :
 https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/discipleship-and-the-idols-of-family-and-culture/
Other key operatives in the Evangelical LGBTQUI+ lobby seem very coordinated in the attack on the family .from Rosaria Butterfield and Christopher Yuan — again, BLAME THE CHURCH. This one is QUITE disturbing in how things are worded throughout:  https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/something-greater-than-marriage-a-response-to-the-scotus-decision  
“Even though some in our culture believe as Justice Kennedy wrote that marriage “embodies the highest ideals of love,” we disagree. Earthly marriage does not have a monopoly on love. … As important as earthly marriage and family are, they are both fleetingly temporary, while Christ and the family of God (the church) are wondrously eternal. We have failed to show the LGBT community another option to marriage—which is singleness—lived out in the fruitful and full context of God’s community, the family of God. This does not mean as Justice Kennedy wrote that singles are “condemned to live in loneliness,” but that singles can have intimate and fulfilling relationships full of love. This is not a consolation prize. It can be just as rewarding and fulfilling as marriage.  Defining marriage as being between a husband and a wife appears unfair to the LGBT community, in part because a life of singleness is viewed to be crushingly lonely. Have we in the church inadvertently played into that lie with our idolatry of marriage while being pejorative and silent toward singleness?”

Clearly this attack on the family has been building among TGC / ERLC  / T4G camp for some time and is now being led by the Revoice and Living Out LGBTQUI+ lobby arm of these neo reformed organizations .
THE NEW MANTRA OF OUR EVANGELICAL LEADERS APPEARS TO BE HILLARY’S “IT TAKES A VILLAGE” OR MORE SPECIFICALLY “IT TAKES AN LGBTQUI+ INCLUSIVE CHURCH VILLAGE “TO RAISE A CHILD.”

 

Russell Moore and Tim Keller have “done got out of hand folks.” It is enough. It is beyond enough and these men need to go find their homes in some liberal denominations that have already committed spiritual suicide with these self-induced poisonings of their collective souls. Enough, O Lord. Hear from heaven and deliver us from these men and their false expressions of care for souls, their Christless false gospels, their left-wing politics masked as “Gospel Issues” and their arrogant affronts to all that is of Divine Design. People of God, wake up. These agents of change have crept in unawares and are feasting on our fear in our feasts of love, spoiling the hearts and minds of our youth and feeding themselves on the flock. ENOUGH!

CULT TACTICS OF CONTROL SEPARATION AND ISOLATION

Remember beloved it is NOT Christ who is making these manifold efforts redefining family, rather He defined it from the beginning in the clearest terms. “A man shall leave his father and mother and CLEVE unto his wife and those two shall be one flesh.” Matthew 19:5; Mark 10:7; 1 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 5:31. From this union of flesh children are born and parents – not TGC/ERLC affiliated churches – are called to and tasked with raising children. We are to train up our children in the way they should go, Proverbs 22:6, and to teach them to honor their parents which is a big Ten Commandment and one with promise and to admonish them to fear and follow the Lord, Ephesians 6:1-4. The nuclear family that is now in the crosshairs of Russell Moore’s Cross Shaped Family Conference is God’s construct and He will not have it deconstructed and redefined by Janet Fishburn or by the Kellers or Moore. The idea of replacing family with a group of members from a tightly ordered sect is nothing new. Cults love to separate their members from family ties to isolate, destabilize and control them. Is the SBC and PCA leadership wanting to replace family with their new wave of the Fishburn Family Values? Are we now to believe Hillary’s ghost written book (whose actual author is now exposing as a fraud) is the prophetic voice for the inclusive church of the future?  Redefining the nuclear family will lead to making children wards of the State.

How did we get here? The answer is simple really. We have not been paying attention – have not vetted the carefully crafted messages we are being fed with Scripture – and we have infiltrated leadership. It is really that simple. The remedy may be more complicated and seem to some to be severe. The fact is this overhaul is just getting started and it will not end anytime soon unless we either rise up and “throw the bums out” or “leave them alone” and exit the harlot churches. We are reaching critical mass and meltdown is imminent. We cannot remain in a state of constant siege from within.

LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF REDEFINING MARRIAGE AND FAMILY: YET UNSEEN -BUYER BEWARE.

Few in the Church have really thought through where Obergefell and redefining marriage has left us. Now we see church leadership wanting to lead an assault on the nuclear family and redefine it from within. To ascertain the gravity of this issue we need only listen to the lead family judge of England in his boast “We Should Applaud the End of the Nuclear Family and Welcome the Reality of Single and Same Sex Households.” Remember Sam Allberry lives in this brave new world in the UK and, with the help of Tim and Kathy Keller, just gave us the Living Out Church Audit about the broader “Church Family” and “sharing of children.”

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Under fire: Sir James Munby

 

England’s chief family court judge pictured above is applauding the very thing that ERLC and TGC and Revoice are just introducing into the conservative Evangelical church in America. Listen to his assertions and join his sobered critics in consideration of what is happening before our very eyes.

“The country’s most senior family judge was under fire from politicians and colleagues yesterday after saying that the collapse of the traditional family was to be welcomed.

“In a speech Sir James Munby, president of the Family Division of the High Court, said there was a new reality of single parent households, same-sex marriages and adopted families.

“He said this was ‘a reality which we should welcome and applaud’.

“The applause for new forms of family life, delivered in a lecture at Liverpool University and published at the Weekend, is a step further than any major figure in public life has yet travelled in the direction of rejecting the two-parent family as the best pattern for raising children.”

Note Judge Munby’s inclusion of adoption which may seem like one of the more favorable issues that Russell Moore’s Cross Shaped Family Conference is promoting. But there is something more in the wings with the Russell Moore concept of family which is evident in his use of Revoice speaker and ERLC consultant LGBTQUI+ / Race strategist Branden Polk’s advisory firm at the table with Moore’s ERLC 2017 “Christ Centered Parenting Conference,” and other conference and policy planning. LGBTQUI+ adoption is one of the key goals of the Fishburn style confronting of “Idolatry of Family” and key elements of redefining it. Russell Moore needs to put all his cards on the table here. Or better yet, again, he just needs to leave the table and the discussion.

CONCLUSION

Albert Mohler disciples are everywhere in the problems at hand. From Revoice- to heading the ERLC- to TGC- to Allberry commission into the SBC conversation – to the new engagement of Tim Keller’s “Church Inclusion Audit”  in the SBC. Unthinkable  indeed .

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The sad reality we must face is that, as radical as the “Queer and Trans Christianity “ of Revoice was and the shocking effort  to  introduce “treasures of queer theory, culture, and literature into the church and the future New Jerusalem” Revoice boasted of, these objectionable and unthinkable additions to the conversation the ERLC, Moore and Mohler began in 2014 are only the tip of the rot and decay now evident in some of our own seminaries and only a glimpse of where their conversation is intended to lead a trusting and unsuspecting Church. Only God can reach these men’s hearts and change their minds’ delusions or humble their arrogance and self-deception. It is possible instead that perhaps God will determine to judge and remove them but until then we must simply ask – as we await such divine determination – “Will we follow these men and allow our churches, the family as God created it, the good news of the Gospel and our Children to be redefined by them or will we simply say ‘enough’ and remove them or leave them to their own fate? It would help us all to recall that God is not absent in His momentary silence nor is anything hidden from His gaze. The Word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword and it cuts through all the finely-honed ERLC, TGC, SBTS, APA, Mohler, Moore, Keller, Yarhouse rhetoric the present floodtide of which is attempting to drown out the true Gospel. Who do these men think will really have the final word in matters pertaining to God’s House, Gods people, and His holy created order? Perhaps some long overdue judgement is waiting in the wings just off the Evangelical stage.

 

 

Tim Keller’s LGBTQI+ Inclusion Audit for Your Church: Do You Measure Up?

Tim Keller and “Living Out” LGBTQI+ London Conference Produces Inclusion Audit for Churches

By Rev Thomas Littleton                                                                                            Aug 15,2018

In light of the controversial  Revoice Conference in July 2018 and the trouble sparked by Tim Keller’s speaking at the Living Out Conference while it promoted Revoice , one might expect those involved in the controversy to lay low and avoid further attention . This is not the case. During the Keller conference for LGBTQI+ Christians an “ Inclusion Audit for Churches” was planned and presented. That audit was made public on August 15 tweet seen below.

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We’ve recently developed this LO Church Audit to help church families work out whether they are biblically inclusive. How will your church do?

 

This litmus test is touted to be a self-imposed audit for determining where our churches stand on Keller/ Living Outs touted version of “Biblical Inclusion”. From the website it reads –

How biblically inclusive is your Church?

“At our Identity in Christ conference with Tim & Kathy Keller in June 2018 we launched our Living Out Church Audit – a tool to help church leadership teams answer this key question: how biblically inclusive is your church? Unsurprisingly our focus is on those who might identify as LGBTQ+/ same-sex attracted: Jesus included all in a counter-cultural way and we hope this audit will help our churches follow his lead.”

 

Complete with Video http://www.livingout.org/resources/the-living-out-church-audit    Living Out and The Gospel Coalition (of Tim Keller) spokesperson Ed Shaw / same sex attracted priest , informs  you that your church should immediately adopt this Biblically baseless examination of 10  statements of inclusion as the starting point for testing your church culture regarding LGBTQI+. The implications and objections to each are listed following /below under the heading “PROBLEM”.

  1. Your church family meetings include people who could be labelled LGBTQI+/ are same-sex attracted. True / False / Not Sure          PROBLEM- Up Front this is a type of quota of a broad range of self -identified activist /sexual minorities who must be welcomed in your church or it is not “inclusive”. Given this is an activist culture – future demands of even more inclusion will be made with obligations to include them as well. One example already on the discussion table would be “Child/ Minor Attracted Christians” Biblical response 1 Peter 2:9

 

2.Derogatory language or stereo-typing attitudes towards sexual minority groups                  would not be tolerated either up-front or in conversation between church family                members. True / False / Not Sure      PROBLEM – This is classic policing of language              fit a politically correct narrative. It implies that both the pulpit and even private                  conversations in the church /among family members will be subject to censorship.            Example the latest sexual minority identity visitor could accuse your pastor or you            violating this language ban /even accused of Stereo-typical attitudes . Biblical                      Response Acts 17 :29-30

 

 

  1. All in your church know that we all experience sexual brokenness and all are being encouraged to confess their own sexual sins. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM- All sin is forced to be seen as the same even though Scripture says homosexuality is depraved, un-natural, rooted in idolatry and detestable to God. All sin is not the same nor is all sexual sin the same. Sexual sin is against our own bodies while homosexual sin is beyond this issue and a sin against nature. 1st John 1:9 He is faith to cleanse us from all unrighteousness not leave us “sin identified”

 

  1. Same-sex sexual relationships are never mentioned in isolation from other sinful patterns of behavior, or from the forgiveness offered to all through faith in Christ crucified. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM – The pastor or a teacher of home bible group leader would never be allowed to speak to homosexuality specifically without including all sexual sin. Biblical Response Romans 1:24-26 Paul followed no such rule

 

 

  1. All in your church are hearing the same call to radical self-sacrifice of themselves in response to God’s giving of himself in Jesus. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM- In a unified effort to assert that “SSA Christians “are the believers who are living out costly obedience – homosexual desires harbored in the heart of professed Christians are no longer seen as sin but as obedience and the church is compelled to see it as a crown or gift from God. The desired migration of gay activist is then complete.” Homosexuality was once viewed as a curse- now as a cross – one day it will be a crown to be celebrated.” Biblical Response Proverbs 28:13 those who confess and forsake sin find true mercy. Self identifying by sinful desires is not forsaking sin.

 

  1. All in your church are encouraged to develop an identity founded first and foremost on their union with Christ. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM- Given the close association of TGC/ Keller and Living Out with the psychological community which affirms a Homosexual Sexual Orientation exist and that the Orientation assertion equates to a Sexual Identity – then the answer which has been “negotiated “ for those with “Christian beliefs “ is “Gay Christian Identity” i.e. a “Christ Centered Homosexual Identity “ This is simply masked cleverly in Tim Kellers topics at Living Out and in this church Audit which was introduced from it.Biblical Response Galatians 2:20 Its now Christ who lives in us .We are not still “sin identified” but He lives in us.

 

 

  1. A godly Christian’s sexual orientation would never prevent them from exercising their spiritual gifts or serving in leadership in your church. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM- Revoice and now Living Out and Tim Keller are calling for Sexual Minorities in Ministry. Time will likely come soon when churches- like municipal agencies / major city Police Departments are required to have full time LGBTQI+ liaisons at public expense . Biblical Response 1 Corinthians 6:11  sin orientation is Biblical  ,a result of the fall , but sexual orientation is the unsupported  claims of of some in the psychological community . Biblical view – our sins are behind us when we are in the faith . Holiness becomes God’s house ministers mush not disqualify themselves through sin 1 Cor 9:27

 

  1. God’s gifts of either singleness or marriage are equally promoted, valued and practically supported in your church family’s life together. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM -Marriage is honorable and the bed undefiled. Homosexuality is being impowered by a narrative that celibacy is superior level of commitment to God and that “SSA celibates are the real heros of the faith”. This is false. Christian Marriage reflects the relationship of Christ to the Church.  Biblical Response Hebrews 13 :4 , Ephesians 5:32 singleness imposed as a restraint to same sexual desires is not biblical and same sex relationships can never mirror Christ and the Church.

 

 

  1. Church family members instinctively share meals, homes, holidays, festivals, money, children with others from different backgrounds and life situations to them. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM – This narrative would assert that “It takes a Village” is accurate.  It promotes a collectivism as compulsory to expressing Christian Faith and even implies Parents are compelled to “Share their children “with those espousing homosexuality or LGBTQI+ identity.  Tim Keller you are endorsing this? Stay away from our children Mr. Keller. Biblical Response Psalm 127:3-5 Children are a heritage from the Lord for parents. Ephesians 6:1-4 Children are parents responsibility and are to follow parents authority . It does not “Take a gay inclusive  church village “

 

  1. No-one would be pressured into expecting or seeking any “healing” or change that God has not promised any of us until the renewal of all things. True / False / Not Sure PROBLEM- This statement is clearly aimed at Reparative Therapy or Conversion Therapy and is rooted in the Yarhouse and other APA compliant work of both Christian and Gay Counselors . After only 200 people in the APA studies and 98 people in the Yarhouse studies – it is concluded that sexual orientation exist and seldom if ever changes- thus concluding that the Gospel does not promise change this side of Eternity. This is simply -in the end -asserting the Bible is a lie and modern psychology is correct based on 298 people studied with unwanted homosexual desires. Biblical Response Hebrews 7:24-26

 

A stateside effort very similar to Living Out and Tim Keller’s Church Audit can be found at Church Clarity https://www.churchclarity.org/advocates  . This “test” survey is administered to the church by activist organization advised by two activist no strangers to controversy at Wheaton College. One is Julie Rodgers who is a personal Friend to Revoice founder Nate Collins and others in the Revoice camp. Julie   jumped from the Celibate side B to the fully affirming side A in 2015 after the Obergefell decision making gay marriage legal. Julie is also a good friend and works /appears in conferences with Mark Yarhouse- whose work heavily influences- The Gospel Coalition, Revoice, Living Out, Nate Collins, Sam Allberry , Tim Keller , J D Greear , Russell Moore, Tim Keller , and the list goes on and on.

The Christian church, if it institutionally embraces , LGBTQI+ Christianity then its days are numbered. It will be weighed in the balances and found wanting as will these leaders who brought us here.

The Stain of Revoice

IS HERITAGE FOUNDATION BEING REVOICED? HOW THE “LGBT CHRISTIANITY” OF REVOICE COULD BRING DOWN CONSERVATIVE DENOMINATIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE NATION.

By Rev Thomas Littleton                                                                                                 8/11/2018

Southern Baptist Theological Seminary’s Dr Albert Mohler hands  doctorate diploma in Spring 2017 to Revoice CEO Founder Nate Collins after 14 ½ years under Mohler’s discipleship and teaching New Testament And online Greek as well as counseling students, grading papers, and traveling as SBTS scholar . Mohler has never admitted to date that Collins is an SBTS graduate and instructor .

 

REVOICE INCUBATION, AFTERMATH, DNA, COMPLICIT ENTITIES, AND FUTURE MOVEMENT. HOW MANY MAJOR CONSERVATIVE INSTITUTIONS ARE BUYING IN?

The social justice mantras of some modern day evangelical leadership in the Southern Baptist  and Presbyterian Church of America  are pounding the church with fears over the “Stain of Racism” while some ignore the stain of the current “LGBT+ Christian “ movement behind Revoice . So from where was this movement incubated and launched but from our own conservative institutions like Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (STBS) and Covenant Seminary of the PCA.  Few conservative Christians would have dared to believe just a decade ago that the Summer of 2018 would prove to reveal the potential demise of two major denominations in America until news of the July Revoice Conference in St Louis came into the collective evangelical awareness. The much-reported St Louis Revoice conference was billed as “Promoting LGBT+ flourishing in historic Christian tradition” came in like a stealth bomber to drop its payload of “Queer Christianity “on an unsuspecting evangelical church. The conference itself was even worse than may expected it to be. For those who followed this train wreck from our reports in early May, the glaring omissions and anemic reporting from entities like The Gospel Coalition, The Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood , Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission came close to satire .Denny Burk of CBMW had possession and published http://www.dennyburk.com/what-about-the-revoice-conference/  a new, less controversial workshop title formerly called “Possibility Models in Queer Theory:an Adventure “ at least 24 hours in advance of the Revoice website update with the new title. Burks social media  has confirmed back room conversations with Revoice organizers.

Albert Mohler had commented and written several times after Burks May 30th article. But it took until his August 2nd report https://albertmohler.com/2018/08/02/torn-two-cultures-revoice-lgbt-identity-biblical-christianity/  for Dr. Mohler to finally use the name of the Revoice founder Nates Collins for the first time after  he continually avoided his disciple’s name altogether . Although the most recent article does mention Collins name 9 times and quotes from Collins book ”All But Invisible…” several times, Dr Albert Mohler STILL fails to mention the fact that Collins spent over 14 ½ years as Mohlers seminary SBTS . Is he intentionally not wanting to acknowledge the fact? Collins carries two degrees, taught both on campus and online , and traveled as a scholar representing SBTS. Collins incorporated the non-profit and began planning the Revoice  Conference while still an online instructor of New Testament  and serving as a Garrett Fellow mentoring students and grading papers at SBTS. He wrote his book from which Mohler quotes while at SBTS and had served for 5 previous years on the board of LOVEboldly which is a far more openly LGBT+ Christian  affirming organization working in tandem with members of radical faith activism like the Human Rights Campaign  and Mathew Vines Reformation Project. Why are these disturbing facts something Albert Mohler is still skirting or hoping to live in denial about rather than simply denounce them? Has Revoice simply hit too close to home for honesty ?

This writer broke this story on May 10th 2018 and that research has been used by dozens of writers and publications most often without citing or linking the source. Though this is an integrity issue for those who were willing to make use of research they had not invested in- let it be said with Paul “nevertheless the (word) went forth “exposing the false gospel in this gay Christian movement for evangelicals. Make no mistake the Revoice event is gone but the much larger movement that birthed it is ongoing and entangled deep within the conservative Christian camps. Major players in trusted entities besides SBTS and Covenant seminaries were connected behind the scenes.

FRESH REVELATIONS: HERITAGE FELLOW AND MULTIPLE ERLC TIES TO REVOICE.WHY ARE OUR CONSERVATIVE INSTITTUIONS BUYING INTO LGBT CHRISTIANITY?

As the storm was building against Revoice radical new language and mission in the church ,by late June Christian Tabloid publication Christianity Today was attempting to mainstream the founder of Revoice Nate Collins by publishing https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/june-web-only/andrew-walker-transgender-debate-ryan-anderson-harry-sally.html  an article on “What Transgender People Need from the Church” in which Collins reviews /promotes the book of Heritage Fellow Ryan T. Anderson and SBCs ERLC staffer, Russell Moore clone Andrew Walker as “go to” sources for this ”compelling “ issue for the church. Christianity Today later sent out its heavy hitter , editor Mark Galli  to cover the Revoice controversy in an interview https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/july-web-only/revoices-founder-answers-lgbt-conferences-critics.html  with Collins on the day before the conference began in July again in an attempt of  mainstreaming the conference .

Ryan T. Anderson and Revoice Founder Collins Conference Panel Appearance .

Curious to find the depth of a Heritage Foundation William E. Simon Senior Fellow Ryan Anderson’s https://www.heritage.org/staff/ryan-anderson ties to Revoice founder Nate Collins one need look no further than Collins biographical information at SBTS. https://independent.academia.edu/NateCollins3/CurriculumVitae  According to Collins- at the same time Revoice was being organized in St Louis and incubated at SBTS and Covenant Seminaries Ryan T. Anderson and Nate Collins , along with Revoice speaker Laurie Krieg and Revoice mentor and luminary Preston Sprinkle , were presenting together in the Q Ideas Forum of progressive evangelical and Tim Keller “Good Faith “ pal Gabe Lyons. According to Collins the presentation was a panel discussion hosted by Sprinkle and covered “LGBT issues “.

How much influence is the radical LGBT+ Christianity Revoice message having on the Heritage Foundation, Public Discourse, Witherspoon Institute and other  publications and areas where Anderson is respected? Is Ryan Anderson mentor Robert George buying into Revoice message?  Given the exposure , which even disturbed the LGBT press,  http://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/02/15/rubio-creates-anti-lgbt-marriage-and-family-board/   of  the proximity of Anderson and others in Florida Campaigns to Paul Singer (billionaire /massive LGBT funder) these further mixed messages on LGBT and associations with Revoice founder in the same timeframe as the conference was being planned leaves lingering and  disturbing unanswered questions.

ERLC Ties Ever Deepening

Revoice also had multiple ties to the Southern Baptist Ethics arm the ERLC  beyond those previously reported (ERLC Fellow Karen Swallow Prior endorsement and ERLC consultant on Christ Centered Parenting Conference ,among other projects , Revoice speaker Branden Polk.)  In his personal blog Revoice founder Collins urged supporters of LGBT causes in the faith community to financially support ERLC , Gay Christian Network , and Collins broader gay affirming ministry association LOVEboldly . Unsure at what point Collins was signaled by leadership of the ERLC that the once firmly conservative SBC entity was now supporting the message of LOVEboldly and Revoice – we still see the connection to Collins through ERLC underling Andrew Walker whose book (again ) Collins reviewed in Christianity Today and who came out with a soft shoe critique https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/what-about-revoice  of Revoice in the place of his boss at ERLC Dr. Russell Moore just days before the conference  .

The ERLC’s Russell Moore and PCA champion Tim Keller have appeared in the same Q Ideas forum “The Gay Conversation”  http://qpodcast.org/  with many of the key Revoice speakers and the brain trust behind “Sexual Minority /LBGT+ Christianity Mark Yarhouse. These are the same broader conversations of which Revoice founder and Heritage Foundation Fellow Ryan T. Anderson took part in together. Oddly this conference is also archived and linked on a site entitled “gaychristians.org “.  http://www.gaychristians.org/  This site expresses support of “Gay Christianity “ in the very broadest of terms.

“Perhaps those references in the Bible have been misinterpreted and taken out of context. Besides, are we really supposed to literally take in everything the Bible says to heart? After all, the Bible was not actually written by God, but rather by his followers and their interpretation of his word. Of course there are varying degrees of acceptance amongst Christian groups. There are some that completely accept homosexuality while there are others that have placed idealized conditions upon it.”

What one must ask at this point is “why does the Gay Christian site that espouses the loose interpretation on the Bible described above- see the Q Idea podcast of “The Gay Conversation “ by Russell Moore, Tim Keller, Collins , Ryan Anderson, Yarhouse and more as a helpful resource for those promoting Gay Christianity?” How far is the Stain of Revoice soaking through the conservative Christian community? How many of our important institutions like Heritage Foundation , SBTS, Covenant , ERLC  have been marked with the deadly assumptions of LGBT+ Christianity ?

WHERE TO NEXT?

If we are prepared to allow for it’s continued advance – the Revoice message is heading to our teens in youth groups by targeting https://thirtypiecesofsilver.org/2018/07/07/beyond-revoice-part-1-recruiting-youth-pastors-targeting-your-teens/   our youth pastors . It is clear the stain has reached our young people in our own seminaries and the false social justice narrative of sexual minorities in the church and in ministry. Are our Washington D.C. Conservative think tanks also being Revoiced to reflect “Queer Christianity”? Has this radical message found sympathetic ears and minds in chosen young spokesperson like Ryan T Anderson? If so then Christian Conservative beware. The Revoice  leaven  has leavened the whole lump and it happened under the watchful eyes of some of our most trusted leadership. God forbid we sleep through this carefully engineered  quiet revolution .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Revoice Recap : Cliff Notes Whats Wrong with Revoice , SBC/TGC Responses to IT

REVOICE RECAP: Cliff Notes for Busy Believers on the Movement Promoting Sexual Minority, LGBT+, Queer Christianity in the Conservative Churches in America!

Rev. Thomas Littleton                                            7/22/2018

(Note, the issues involving the conservative Evangelical church and the Revoice conference are all the more pointed given the Human Rights Campaign renewed efforts to infiltrate Evangelical churches announced just last week.  Those HRC efforts have particular focus on the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest protestant denomination in the US and historically conservative on family, marriage and sexual ethics.  HRC’s special emphasis is seen here and even quotes SBTS head, Albert Mohler.  Last week the ERLC finally acknowledged such efforts by the HRC to Infiltrate the SBC while also for the first time publicly addressing the presence of the largest LGBT activist organization after years of meeting WITH HRC and others in private.

A movie attacking Reparative Therapy and Ex Gay ministries, titled “Boy Erased,” is due for release this Fall.  It stars Russell Crow as a Baptist preacher who forces his son into a sort of boot camp for families wanting to “pray away the gay,” which is a very distorted view of ministries who help those who want freedom from such desires. These issues are ramping up in the culture as efforts to criminalize opposition to homosexuality go hand in hand with those advocating to promote and normalize it, especially to youth and to Christian youth in particular. Leaders of conservative churches who are getting it wrong, repeating false narratives and facilitating such events and the greater movement behind Revoice, have done and are doing a great disservice to the Body of Christ and to their own families. The SBC annual meeting in Dallas saw a timely and great opportunity to address the important issue of preserving ministry to people wanting out of the LGBT lifestyle by passing a RESOLUTION proposed by Dr. Robert Oscar Lopez of SWBTS. The Resolution never made its way out of committee for the Dallas SBC annual meeting. If Russell Moore of the ERLC had stood behind this resolution like he has done with others, such as the 2017 Alt-Right condemnation, this all-important issue of meaningful ministry to the LGBT community by Southern Baptist churches and ministries would not have been ignored.)

REVOICE

The Revoice Conference, scheduled to take place in St Louis on July 26th and 27th, is being held to “Promote LGBT+ Flourishing in historic Christian tradition.” Revoice represents a rapid advancement of new language on the issues of LGBTQ movement into the Church. In its vision, beliefs statements, workshops and biographies of the speakers, the conference openly discusses and promotes the normalization of very radical pro homosexual terms and ideology. Examples of the new language include: “LGBT+ Christian,” “Queer Christian,” “Queer Visibility” (coming out as gay) in the Church,” “Gleaning the Virtues of Queer Culture, Literature, and Theory for the Church and the New Jerusalem at the End of Time,” “Sexual Minorities in the Church and in Ministry in the Church,” and “Making the Church Open to and a Safe Haven for the LGBT+ Community.”

This author first broke this story with the help of WorldView Radio and The Janet Mefferd programs in early May 2018. Since that time the Revoice website has altered some of its more progressive language but by no means attempted to still the controversy. The author and others have reached out to the founder of Revoice, Nate Collins from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Those efforts have been turned away with little or no response to the concerns expressed.

The author has researched and written extensively on Revoice and WHY this July event represents a movement to normalize and promote acceptance of “LGBT+ Christianity” into mainstream Christian churches and denominations like the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) and the conservative Presbyterian Church in America (PCA).  If this and other extensions of this subversive and well-funded effort are not met and turned away from the gates of orthodox Christianity, the days of Institutionalized Christian denominations and churches are numbered in America and those believers who remain faithful to God’s Word will have no choice but to leave churches and denominations who embrace and allow it. Significant infiltration has already occurred in our Seminaries – of the SBC and PCA and other denominations. (the issues in bullet points below are researched, documented and explained in detail in the linked articles at the conclusion of this Recap.

PROBLEMS WITH THE REVOICE CONFERENCE

IN THE SBC

The Founder of Revoice is Nate Collins who self identifies as a homosexual in a mixed orientation marriage, which means that he is married to a woman who is heterosexual, but he identifies as a homosexual. Collins holds a Degree from Moody Bible Institute, and a Master’s and Doctorate from Dr Albert Mohler’s very conservative (in reputation at least) Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (SBTS) in Louisville KY. Collins was a New Testament Instructor at SBTS and a Garrett Fellow (grading papers and counseling SBTS students on academics) and is currently an Adjunct Online Teaching partner for SBTS. He has traveled and represented SBTS as a scholar to the Evangelical Theological Society on his researched topics of Gender, Sexuality and Feminist Theory. Collins’ work of planning and incorporating REVOICE began as far back in, (at least) the Fall of 2017, while he was still teaching at Dr. Mohler’s SBTS. According to his bio, Collins spent at least 14 ½ years as a student and later as a teacher and self-identified homosexual (Side B) Christian.  His father, Chip Collins, was Associate Dean at the undergraduate Boyce College, which is a feeder school for SBTS. In 2013, the father and son team – of son Nate (Student and NT instructor at SBTS) and father Chip (Boyce faculty at the time) – had a partnership ministry called “Aligned Grace” where they lectured as an “out” homosexual Christian Son and Father who represented the family who have chosen to affirm the son’s stand as a “Side B” homosexual. “Side B” is LGBT terminology for “Same Sex Attracted Christianity” which means espousing “Celibacy” or having a “Mixed Orientation Marriage” as “adherence to historic Christian Ethic.”

The Collins’ Father and Son Aligned Grace team also partnered with Exodus International’s final President, Alan Chambers, as the organization was abandoning ex gay therapy. The closing of Exodus International was used to vilify all ex gay ministries and led to the broader vilification of Reparative or Conversion Therapy.

LOVEBOLDLY

LOVEboldly was founded in 2011 in Kentucky and Nate Collins joined its board in 2013 while still working at SBTS for at least another 4 ½ – 5 years. LOVEboldly is endorsed by Emergent leader, Brian McLaren, Alan Chambers and Julie Rodgers, the former Wheaton Chaplains office counselor who flipped from Side B to Side A – Fully Affirming homosexual behavior and marriage as a Christian – shortly after the SCOTUS / Obergefell decision. LOVEboldly has both side A and Side B members and events and espouses an alliance for all LGBT+ Christians beyond the issues of Theology, Morality, Politics, or personal views on any similar, possibly divisive issues. The work of Regent University Psychologist, Mark Yarhouse, has played a key role in the development of the LGBT ideology of LOVEboldly / Revoice and even The Gospel Coalition (TGC) members, D. A. Carson, Tim Keller and Albert Mohler, Russell Moore, and the institutions and organizations which these leaders oversee.

“DEVOTED FOR YOUTH PASTORS” CONFERENCE

In the Fall of 2018, LOVEboldly will host a “Devoted for Youth Pastors” Conference on “LGBT+ Christianity” with two key leaders of the Revoice Conference, Nate Collins (also a LOVEboldly board member) and Gregory Coles, a Student and Instructor in the English Department of Penn State University. Coles’ area of study, similar to Collins, is in Theory and Rhetoric focused on gender, feminine, race and sexual minority theory and rhetoric toward social change. Coles’ book, Single Gay Christian, is heavily endorsed by TGC. The “Devoted for Youth Pastors” Conference seeks to come alongside YOUTH PASTORS to help them affirm and minister to LGBT teens in churches, thus bypassing senior church staff and parents by taking the Revoice / LOVEboldly ideology directly to teens and preteens in their churches. A 2016 LOVEboldly conference called “Restore” featured “Side A” lesbian Christian, Julie Rodgers, and Regent University’s Dr. Mark Yarhouse, who collaborate on focusing to bring their Side A and Side B message to Christian youth. LOVEboldly has close ties to the Human Rights Campaign through a board member, Christy Messick, and Julie Rodgers, the bride-to-be of a radical lesbian LGBTQ Equality activist who heads a lobby group and serves on Leadership Committees of the HRC.  HRC’s funding ties to the $50 million dollar PLUS per year budget with special emphasis on conservative evangelical (SBC churches) are suspected, to be confirmed soon.

ERLC / RUSSELL MOORE TIES TO REVOICE

The Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention is the policy, and lobbying arm of the denomination. Its leader is the brazenly controversial Russell Moore who is an SBTS graduate and former Instructor and Dean. Moore took the reins of ERLC in March 2013 and by October made waves by announcing that “The Culture War is over and we (the Church) lost” and, therefore, we need to make nice and “love our gay and lesbian neighbors.” Moore then led the ERLC to host a 2014 conference on Homosexuality and the Future of Marriage to which he invited and secretly met behind closed doors with many LGBTQ activist groups including the Human Rights Campaign. This issue has now come to the attention of many who question the following connections of Revoice to the ERLC. In Moore’s 2014 conference, he and Dr Albert Mohler of SBTS capitulated and professed their belief in Homosexual Orientation and denounced all efforts to help people change or be transformed from unwanted homosexual desires through ministries that provide Reparative or Conversion Ex Gay therapy.

Karen Swallow Prior is a professor at Liberty University, an ERLC Research Fellow and a close friend of Russell Moore. Swallow Prior appears to enjoy the spotlight of being progressively controversial in the SBC. Prior also promotes the Revoice Conference on the Revoice website and has a history of appearing at LGBT+ events.

ERLC contractor, Brandon Polk, will be a Speaker at Revoice. His company, Arrowhead Advisors, worked very closely with Russell Moore in the ERLC 2017 “Christ Centered Parenting Conference” and on the controversial, racially charged MLK/50 conference last April. Polk has most recently worked with Moore’s ERLC legislative research on Prison Reform. Polk does not speak in his biography about his personal place in the Side A Side B discussion. He does boast (on both personal and Arrowhead social media) of his close friendship with Todrick Hall, a judge on RuPaul’s Drag (Queen) Race television program. Russell Moore considers Brandon Polk’ company to be an advisor to him on Christ Centered Parenting for Southern Baptists. That should have time to settle in on Southern Baptists about their ERLC leadership.

Nate Collins advocates for his Side A and Side B followers when he says “Give to a charitable organization that either helps LGBT people in crisis, offers Christ-focused support services, or promotes awareness, dialogue, and peace as genuine Christian values. LoveBoldly, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, and the Gay Christian Network are all good options, as well as the GoFundMe site for the victims and their families.”

None of the articles written in response or the broadcast by SBC or TGC leaders speak to their own connections to those involved,founding,promoting ,or speaking at Revoice. All responses carefully avoid going anywhere near Nate Collins ties to SBTS/ ERLC  the endorsement of Karen Swallow Prior , the ERLC contractor speaking, Mark Yarhouse  ideology, or Covenant Seminaries many links to the conference. Such coordinated avoidance is not possible without intention .

PCA DENOMINATIONAL TIES ARE EVEN WORSE

The Presbyterian Church of America has been one of the most trusted Reformed conservative and active denominations in the US for around 40 years. It produced such outspoken leaders as D. James Kennedy and Frank Barker on theological, convictional, moral, social issues like the gay agenda (now called LGBT+ or LGBTQ). Both were among the PCA’s founding leadership, however, Revoice represents very disturbing infiltration into the denomination. St Louis, Missouri is the location of the PCA’s flagship, Covenant Theological Seminary. Seven Revoice speakers are recent graduates of Covenant Seminary as well as three Covenant professors who are either endorsing, like Scott Sauls (Nashville Extension for Covenant), or speaking at Revoice. The President of Covenant Seminary is Mark Dalbey, whose wife Beth works in the leadership of one of the Revoice mentor organizations, First Light, which maintains offices at Memorial PCA Church which is hosting Revoice.

The PCA Pastor of Revoice is Greg Johnson. Both he and Mark Dalbey were asked to answer concerns during the PCA’s General Assembly annual meetings in Atlanta in June 2018. Dalbey pointed out that Covenant is not hosting or connected to Revoice but fails to mention his wife’s involvement with First Light at Memorial PCA which mentors Revoice and whose director, a Covenant Seminary graduate, is ALSO a Revoice speaker.

Greg Johnson has made a case for the Side B “faithfulness to Christian sexual ethic” and is one of the few involved who espouse that this “Ethic” is Biblically based. In fact, it is not, as Collins and Mark Yarhouse confirm that if their conclusions about the validity of a homosexual or LGBT sexual orientation are true, then it is not addressed in Scripture and the espoused Christian Sexual Ethic is based on extrabiblical /psychologically based terminology. On July 15th Greg Johnson affirmed in an interview podcast that he “would also consider hosting a conference similar to Revoice, if asked, for “Pedophile Christians, those attracted sexually to children.” To date, he and his church have received no warnings or actions of discipline from the PCA and they appear to remain in good standing with their Biblical conservative denomination.

Scott Sauls, who endorses Revoice on its website and helped organize the event in the Spring of 2018, is the long time protege’ of PCA golden boy, Timothy Keller. Sauls was on the preaching staff and later became a church planter for Keller’s Redeemer City PCA church in New York City. Keller had planted over 400 churches globally and is now working through his Redeemer City to City to plant thousands more by 2025. Sauls is also part of Keller’s Gospel Coalition and contributes to the ERLC and Russell Moore. Sauls appears to be following his mentor into the fringes on LGBTQ issues as Keller has already shown an inability to say clearly that homosexuality is a sin, in a 2015 Veritas Forum, and, in 2013, said that Christians can support gay marriage in the culture just not in the church. No such imaginary lines as Keller pretends to define exist now in the reality of legal same sex marriage. SCOTUS opinions on Obergefell have made it clear that redefining marriage is a threat and sets up a future class struggle between Gay Rights and Religious Freedom. Does Keller think he knows something that SCOTUS legal minds do not about these dangers? Doubtful.

REVOICE AND LIVING OUT: PROMOTED IN UNISON BY SAM ALLBERRY & TIM KELLER

Tim Keller was in London to be the keynote speaker at the June “Living Out” conference promoted by Sam Allberry, a Same Sex Attracted Priest who, along with other self-identified gay priests in the Church of England, are migrating LGBT language since the 2013 vote of parliament to legalize same sex marriage in the UK. Keller’s TGC and Russell Moore of ERLC have heavily promoted Allberry and his SSA ministry for over 4 years to the US Evangelical Church. Allberry’s Living Out eagerly promoted the Revoice Conference for their “US audience” along with their marketing and Promotion of the Keller/ Allberry Event in London for June 2018.

CONSERVATIVE MASTERS COLLEGE (NOW UNIVERSITY) AND SEMINARY GRADUATE INVOLVED.

One of the speakers at Revoice and “key straight allies” of the Revoice and the broader LGBT+ “Christian Community” is Preston Sprinkle and his Center for Faith Sexuality and Gender. Sprinkle is relatively unknown outside these circles but his presence at Revoice and mentor role to the “Sexual Minority” LGBT+ camp represented in Revoice and beyond proves disturbing to devoted followers of John Macarthur since Sprinkle carries two degrees (and perhaps ordination to ministry/credentials) from Macarthur’s conservative Masters College and Seminary. Many hope that John Macarthur will be the first among the mainstream ministers, whose disciples are attempting to Revoice the Church, to respond and openly denounce this movement.

NO BIBLICAL BASIS FOR REVOICE CLAIMS / ITS SOURCE IS MARK YARHOUSE AND THE APA

In the extensive research provided in the links below, one common influence becomes apparent. Mark Yarhouse of Regent University has impacted seminaries like Covenant and SBTS, institutions and parachurch ministries like the ERLC and TGC, and manifestations of this radical, new, migratory and gateway language of “LGBT+, Sexual Minority and Queer Christianity.” Yarhouse is a psychologist who works with interfaith, gay and Christian psychologists to reconcile conflicted LGBT people of faith based on the presumptions of the pro homosexual policies of the American Psychological Association (APA).

In 1973, the APA departed from its position that homosexuality is a mental illness and declared it to be a healthy lifestyle. Since that time the psychological community has operated on this assumption. Christian psychologists have had sharp divisions over the issue of homosexuality and Christian Counseling for decades. Mark Yarhouse has worked with the APA, Gay and Christian psychologists to bridge that gap and provide common ground for these diverse and antithetical points of view.  In the Yarhouse Whitepaper, which was developed in 2010 for The Gospel Coalition at the request of D.A. Carson for use in their College Campus ministries, the concept of Sexual Orientation as fixed was stated as a principle. Using the APA and his own very limited Research (around 98 selected people with SSA), Yarhouse’s Institute for the Study of Sexual Identity concluded that since (as asserted ) Sexual Orientation is real and fixed or “seldom changes,” then a person who has  a ”homosexual Identity,” which in the case of a Christian (or a follower of a particular faith historically opposed to homosexuality), has a conflicted “Faith Identity.” These two must be merged for the wellbeing of the patient or person with conflicted identities. Therefore, “LGBT+ or particular (sexual) Identity” + “Faith Identity” = “LGBT+ Christian” or “Sexual Minority Christian.”

Since 2010, TGC leadership and its devotees and affiliates have been steeped in this view as the gold standard for all things LGBT in the Church, its literature and its seminaries, training and ministry practice. This leadership included Russell Moore, while at SBTS and then as head of ERLC from 2013, as he and Albert Mohler influenced the SBC leadership (including the new SBC President J D Greear according to his lecture at ERLC and his pastoral care policy) and their underlings through Moore’s policy shift and the 2014 conference of the ERLC in Nashville. TGC along with D.A. Carson and Tim Keller were able to use the influence of their co-founded organization TGC to promote the Yarhouse Whitepaper/ideology in the conservative PCA and to the Seminaries and as outlined in the document, to the Campus ministries like Reformed University Fellowship (RUF), CRU and InterVarsity. Ironically, a supposed pragmatic reason for reaching the Millennials has driven much of the public discussion as these leaders and others advise us that conservative Evangelicals are in the minority position culturally. If true, this culture shift would be due to false narratives which they themselves have helped to propagate.

For further research and documentation of the facts presented you can search the following articles.

https://thirtypiecesofsilver.org/2018/05/14/trusted-sbc-and-pca-seminaries-producing-sexual-minority-activists/

https://thirtypiecesofsilver.org/2018/05/29/make-the-gospel-great-again-reject-the-false-gospel-of-lgbt-christianity/

https://thirtypiecesofsilver.org/2018/06/09/will-the-next-sbc-president-condemn-or-condone-the-revoice-conference-and-lgbt-christianity/

https://thirtypiecesofsilver.org/2018/06/18/living-like-a-refugee-in-the-sbc/

https://thirtypiecesofsilver.org/2018/06/24/revoice-albert-mohler-and-the-missing-link/

https://thirtypiecesofsilver.org/2018/07/07/beyond-revoice-part-1-recruiting-youth-pastors-targeting-your-teens/

Southern Baptist Leaders Need Wake Up Call from The Pews on False Gospel of Social Justice on “Sexual Minorities “

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Southern Baptists floundering against LGBT agenda, pro-family forces keep fighting

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Marching in the 2018 Boston Gay Pride parade. Is this the future of the Southern Baptist denomination? (MassResistance photo.)

July 13, 2018 (Mass Resistance) – In April 2017, Rev. Tom Littleton of Alabama gave a chilling talk on “How the LGBT movement is infiltrating conservative churches” at the MassResistance Citizen Action Conference in Austin, TX. For over a decade, he pointed out, the national LGBT movement has been funding a multi-million-dollar under-the-radar subversive campaign in Southern states to push the homosexual movement into conservative Christian churches. And they’ve been shockingly successful.

But an even bigger goal has been to infiltrate and subvert the overall Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), the largest Christian denomination in the South and the second largest in North America (after the Catholic Church). This year that goal has become frighteningly closer to reality. The events surrounding the 2018 Southern Baptist Convention’s annual meeting, held June 12-13 in Dallas, shocked many conservatives.

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At the 2018 Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting in Dallas. Over 10,000 people attended. (Photo: SBC.)

Events surrounding the 2018 SBC annual meeting

Purging of Dr. Paige Patterson. A few weeks before the SBC annual meeting, the de facto conservative leader of the Southern Baptist movement, Dr. Paige Patterson, was abruptly fired from his position as president of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary by its board. He was subsequently removed from all influence in the denomination, including his keynote speech at the annual meeting. This followed a hysteria-driven, well-orchestrated effort over several months to discredit him for alleged misconduct decades ago. It’s hard to know if the charges were legitimate. He was not given a hearing, nor was his side of the story even sought before judgment was made. Over two dozen major donors to the Seminary sent this well-documented, strongly worded letter expressing their disgust at the corrupt and illegal way that Dr. Patterson was treated. But the board refused to reconsider their actions.

SBC elects new leader who is “accommodating” to homosexuality. At the annual meeting, the SBC overwhelmingly elected J.D. Greear, a moderate pastor who caters to millennials, to be the new president of the denomination. As Bryan Fischer of American Family Radio points out, Greear often goes out of his way to be accommodating to homosexuality in his messages. Greear has told his congregation to “love our gay neighbor more than we love our position on sexual morality” – which seems to many to be completely un-Biblical.

Powerful resolution on LGBT issues submitted at Convention.Dr. Robert Oscar Lopez is the leader of Texas MassResistance and a professor at the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth. As the Convention began,Dr. Lopez and a group of other Baptist Texas MassResistance activists submitted a powerful resolution on LGBT issues titled On Ministry and Counseling to Lead People from Homosexuality to Heterosexuality.

The resolution basically reiterated fairly standard Christian teaching on homosexuality: Among other things: No one is “born gay” and “cannot change”; To say “I am gay” is a rejection of God’s design. It states: “RESOLVED, the Southern Baptist Convention rejects as heresy any claims that God makes people homosexual…” It went on to say that reparative therapy and similar efforts to free a person from the grip of homosexuality should be supported by the SBC.

Resolution quashed by Convention leadership. Some “moderate” SBC leaders have been on record as opposing any kind of reparative therapy. The Convention adopted over a dozen left-leaning and Social Justice-type resolutions (on gun control, immigration, etc.). Lopez’s resolution was the only one submitted which addressed the LGBT movement’s push against orthodox Christianity. The Resolutions Committee refused to allow it to go to the floor for a vote, claiming that it needed “more clarification.” However, on the last day one of the Texas MassResistance activists was able to come to the podium to speak. He began to call for this resolution to be voted on, but the Chairman interrupted him and announced that the Convention time was over and adjourned the meeting!

Troubling “Revoice” Conference – ties to SBC? Another dangerous component of the LGBT movement’s war on Christianity is the upcoming “Revoice Conference”taking place in St. Louis on July 26-28. It is a slick, well-funded effort targeting Evangelical Christians, to encourage them to accept and embrace homosexuality into their religious life. The stated goal is: “Supporting, encouraging, and empowering gay, lesbian, same-sex-attracted, and other LGBT Christians so they can flourish while observing the historic, Christian doctrine of marriage and sexuality.” In other words, it is three days of expert training to equip LGBT activists and their allies to infiltrate Evangelical churches to normalize homosexuality and subvert the teachings of the Gospel. (In addition to all this, the organizers of “Revoice” have a similar conference in October targeting youth pastors to bring the LGBT agenda to church youth.)

Even more troubling is that a number of so-called conservative Southern Baptist Christian leaders have bought into the “Revoice” conference. This article, Trusted SBC and PCA Seminaries Producing LGBTQ Activists, is particularly jarring.

Rev. Tom Littleton forcefully thrown out of convention. Since last year’s MassResistance speech, Rev. Littleton has been prolific in exposing the LGBT agenda permeating the upper echelons of the Southern Baptist Convention. This has clearly angered the guilty parties and their allies. Rev. Littleton attended the SBC annual meeting as a member of the press (not as a church representative) specifically to find out about the ties between SBC leaders and the Revoice conference.

On the first day, June 12, Rev. Littleton caught up with two major SBC leaders, Russell Moore and Al Mohler. Moore denied any knowledge of Revoice (after being informed of it the previous day), and Mohler allowed him to ask some questions — but then their handlers quickly shooed him away. The following day, just before Moore’s question-and-answer session at the podium, Rev. Littleton was suddenly thrown out of the building by the police. Why is there so much secrecy around this issue? This is very disturbing to many conservatives in the church.

Dr. Lopez escalates fight to “Save our Churches”

Most Southern Baptists are completely unaware about the forces that are working to infiltrate their denomination, and the trusted church leaders who are shamelessly compromising Biblical teachings to allow them in. Since the SBC annual meeting, Dr. Lopez has written some illuminating articles and appeared on Christian radio. Here is a sample:

“Sleazy Sex Games and Dirty Politics in the Southern Baptist Convention” – American Thinker, June 19

“Beyond Friendship: LGBT Issues and the Next Stage of Discernment”(written with Rev. Littleton) [NOTE: scroll down for the article]

Dr. Lopez is also planning an exciting new regular MassResistance video program devoted to this subject, tentatively titled “Save Our Churches!” He’s hoping to begin it this month. Watch for more information on that.

This could happen in your church – if it isn’t already happening

The LGBT movement is obsessed with destroying traditional Judeo-Christian belief, and is using its vast resources to infiltrate and subvert churches everywhere. They use very sophisticated techniques. Unfortunately, many church leaders are easy targets for them. It’s happening in one way or another across America – and all over the world. And most good people don’t even realize it until it’s too late, and feel helpless. But MassResistance is devoted to helping all of you fight back!

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Rev. Tom Littleton speaking at last year’s MassResistance Texas conference. He has done incredibly valuable work exposing the LGBT agenda infiltrating Southern conservative churches, including the

Published with permission from Mass Resistance.

You can make a difference!

BEYOND REVOICE PART 1: RECRUITING YOUTH PASTORS ,TARGETING YOUR TEENS.

BEYOND REVOICE : RECRUITING YOUTH PASTORS ,TARGETING YOUR TEENS !  WHO IS NEXT IN THE CROSS HAIRS OF LGBT+ “CHRISTIANITY ”

By Rev Thomas Littleton                                                                                       July 5 2018
Much attention has been brought to focus in the last two months on the July 26th Revoice Conference and yet few SBC and PCA leaders have clearly denounced the bold claim of Revoice to “promote LGBT+ Flourishing  in historic Christian tradition “. Dr  Albert Mohler finally commented in The Briefing on Friday June 22nd but was very careful about his choice of  words -asserting the best about Revoice participants ” It’s very important to take the organizers at their word ….  What’s most important at the onset to recognize is that those who’ve organized this conference are identifying as Christians who adhere to the historic Christian sexual ethic, and what’s also important is to understand that this places this conference in a very different place than others who are also talking about the LGBTQ issues. And some of those others are arguing for a reversal of the historic Christian biblical understanding of sexual morality and of sexual behavior. ” Dr. Mohler DOES NOT MENTION  that Nate Collins ,the founder and president of Revoice , spent 14 years at Mohler’s SBTS, has two degrees ,a full academic specialty on gender and related topics , and  has presented his writings as an SBTS Scholar.  Mohler DOES NOT MENTION the Revoice ideology is based on Dr. Mark Yarhouse who was commissioned by TGC to develop the whitepaper used by Seminaries, Christian universities and  campus ministries like RUF, CRU , and InterVarsity  which has now come full bloom in July’s Revoice “LGBT+ and Queer Christian “Conference. While ignoring these realities as he has will Dr. Mohler ALSO IGNORE that his disciple is taking the Revoice message to TEENS in our churches to CULTIVATE  LGBT+ identity via the YOUTH PASTORS ?
  Now it is time for all Evangelical Leaders like Dr. Albert Mohler of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary , Russell Moore of the Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission , and The Gospel Coalition co-founders Tim Keller and D. A. Carson to step forward and denounce Revoice and this surge mainstreaming LGBT+ Christianity. There is NO OTHER OPTION  if they plan on having any remaining credibility whatsoever. The movement behind this radical effort to normalize LGBT+ in the church is in full step with the tactics and goals of Human Rights Campaign and Planned Parenthood .These secular entities have not forgotten the church plays a major role in opposition to their goals and they need to subdue it- seduce it and DESTROY THE CHURCH . HRC and Planned Parenthood  love to bypass parents and family and promote their agenda directly to youth at ANY AGE as  a HUMAN RIGHT.  HRC LOVES  to capitalize on the conflicted emotions of people  and their faith, of people and their gay family ,of parents and children.
Is the church about to be led to do the same?
Is this IDEOLOGY not out to target TEENS with the total LGBT+ package as the next STOP on the Revoice founder and worship leaders TOUR begin RECRUITING  the YOUTH MINISTERS ? Youth and new young, inexperienced ,idealistic  ministers can and will bypass parents, senior staff members at churches  and embolden those students who have sympathies toward the cultural popularization of “its hip to be LGBT+” . Trans is the new PUNK for awkward teens seeking attention and to be an ally of LGBT+ friends is GLSENs dream for  the Gay /Straight Allies movement . Now the effort is to bring it HOME to the HOUSES  of worship!
 SAFE SPACES AND INCLUSION FOR OUR CHILDREN IN OUR OWN CHURCHES.
 In October 2018 two of the key leaders of the Revoice  Conference , Nate Collins (SBTS) and Gregory Coles  (endorsed by The Gospel Coaltions D. A. Carson and many others) will be speaking in Cincinnati Ohio at the DEVOTED FOR YOUTH PASTORS  Conference along with a  ministry entitled LOVEboldly . Collins is on the Board of LOVEboldly Inc. and it carries endorsements from Emergent heretic  Brian MCLaren, who in 2012 presided over a Same Sex marriage of his son Trevor and is considered one of the leading figures in the train wreck of postmodernism infiltration into mainstream Christianity . (More on McLaren later)
DEVOTED  CONFERENCE IS PRESENTED BY LOVEboldy INC. – SBTS/REVOICE NATE COLLINS HAS BEEN A BOARD MEMBER OF LOVEboldly  SINCE 2013
 https://www.loveboldly.net/devoted
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(NOTE   No mention is ever made about teen/youth escaping identity of LGBT+ Christain )

“Saddled with expectations from parents, congregation members, denominations, and the leaders who hired them, youth and young adult pastors face a unique challenge in providing effective pastoral care to their LGBTQ+ student. Is it possible to maintain a traditional Biblical view on sexuality, yet remain devoted to the youth in your care who identify as LGBTQ+? Join us for this one-day seminar that will equip you to take practical steps towards loving the LGBTQ+ students in your community with a new boldness, while avoiding common pitfalls that erode relationships, harm your students, and damage those who identify as LGBTQ+.

Presenters will offer a Biblical framework for reconciliation that frees Christians to emulate Christ’s incarnational love without compromising deeply held beliefs on sexuality. Hone your skills and practice strategies for building “treasonous friendships” across deep theological and ideological divides that typically challenge our loyalty to one another. Invite God to guide you towards deeper healing in your closest relationships and gain practical take-home skills and tools to inform your life of ministry.

LGBTQ+ Christians will share their personal stories and insights towards answering your toughest questions and challenges in your life of ministry.”

REVOICE FOUNDER ,ALBERT MOHLER DISCIPLE,  TARGETING YOUTH PASTORS

Nate Collins  and Gregory Coles are working with Alan Chambers who is well known for having dismantled  Exodus International from within after becoming its last president .
Devoted looks to bypass adult staff and parents and reach out to the youth pastor to help him/her provide effective  “pastoral care” for LGBT+ student in their/your church youth group. Collins who ,again, honed his expertise at Dr. Albert Mohlers Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Gregory Coles who has received hearty  endorsements of TGC and many in the PCA/ SBC camp (including the “Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood ” currently headed by Denny Burk) have just what a confused teen needs in your church youth group. A person who spent 14 years at Dr. Mohlers SBTS and still identifies as “homosexual  in a mixed orientation  marriage ” and Coles  who identifies as  a”single Gay Celibate Christian ” may be able make some of the cultures most desperately wrong narratives seem normal to the young believers hearts and minds.
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From DEVOTED Conference Biography
Nate

“Dr. Nate Collins, (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) is the president and founder of Revoice, an evangelical organization that supports, encourages, and empowers gay, lesbian, same-sex attracted and other LGBT Christians so they can flourish while observing the historic Christian doctrine of marriage and sexuality. Speaking from his own experience as a gay man in a mixed orientation marriage, Collins is committed to helping faith communities include LGBT people in the family life of the church. He is the author of All But Invisible: Exploring Identity Questions at the Intersection of Faith, Gender, and Sexuality (Zondervan, 2017). Nate has been married to his wife, Sara, for thirteen years, and they have three children.”

Gregory Coles
Coles is the Worship Leader for Revoice is also speaking at the DEVOTED CONFERENCE FOR YOUTH PASTORS and is endorsed by D. A Carson and Denny Burk and others in TGC ,

Featured Speakers: Devoted Conference Biography 

Greg

“Greg Coles is a piano player, a baker, a writer, a worship leader, and a Ph.D. candidate in English, not necessarily in that order. He grew up on the Indonesian island of Java, where he fell in love with language learning his older brother’s SAT vocabulary words and reading Shakespeare’s Hamlet at age 8. Greg is the author of Single, Gay, Christian: A Personal Journey of Faith and Sexual Identity (InterVarsity Press, 2017). His fiction and expository writing have been published by Penguin Random House and Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, and he writes about his obsession with Jesus at gregorycoles.com. His academic research on rhetorics of marginality (how language works in society for disadvantaged groups) has appeared in College English and Rhetorica.

PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE
( As the researcher who broke the Revoice concerns  it should be noted that those concerns are even greater now given the intentional targeting of TEENS in our churches . My wife and I returned in 2010 to the church she had grown up in named  Shades Mountain Independent Church (SMIC) near Birmingham AL. The family of my wife helped found the church under a wonderful ,evangelistic pastor and it was ,in reputation, one of the most conservative congregations in the city. Under a new pastor  Harry Walls ,20 years later, the church had aligned with The Gospel Coalition. This was not widely known. The DNA by this time was the trusted conservative reformed influence  of John MacArthur of Grace Community Church in CA. and in 2011 the church converted to an elder led governance.
In spite of deep pastoral ties to Masters College and Seminary SMIC was following in the Lausanne and Tim Keller mode of “City Reaching” with its primary outreach ministry. These efforts included ministry ties to Government funding and progressive politics ,especially on LGBT issues under the Obama administration . Several very disturbing events took place over a 3 to 3 1/2 year period. A book by a Gay Celibate Priest Sam Allberry (who now endorses Revoice ) was given to our church teens without Parents being allowed to screen it and soon after this a teen of 14 yrs old began to openly self identify as the opposite gender.The teen was allowed to remain active in the youth group influencing other teens. By 2015 that same gender confused teen worked as a mentor at the churches VERY popular and trusted “conservative” Summer youth CAMP WITH OVER 900 CHILDREN AGE 6-9 ATTENDING .
After three years of expressing GROWING concerns as these events and as others unfolded, in November 2015 my wife and I were branded as troublemakers in a failed attempt to force church discipline by the relatively novice elder Board. By April 2016 , while we were out of  town , my wife and I were identified and announced from the pulpit to be in some unspecified sin. This was the first of TWO such announcements. The lead Pastor Harry Walls had retired in the midst of these concerns and moved  to CA to work at Masters College (now University) and would not engage the issues left behind.
Other compromises with the LGBT movement continued unaddressed especially related to the outreaches of the once evangelistic congregation. Our concerns over INFILTRATION  within church youth groups, youth events  and youth pastors by the LGBT movement remain on VERY HIGH ALERT  for obvious reasons. Given the message of Revoice is now TARGETING Teens through the Youth Pastors, we cannot be SILENT about such deception.
Revoice mentor Preston Sprinkle and his organization Center for Faith , Sexuality , Gender  play  a key role in the movement and Revoice in particular and yet, like Mohlers ties to Collins, John MacArthur / Masters Seminary provided two degrees and perhaps ordination to Preston Sprinkle . Still , like Dr Mohler , John MacArthur has not spoken to this issue and concerns. It is our sincere hope that someone of high regard among evangelicals will rise up and call their disciples to account and openly DENOUNCE and  REPUDIATE   Revoice it’s ideology of “LGBT+/ Queer Christianity ” and the movement in TOTAL. Time will tell and yet the movement is advancing rapidly.  )
FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE
Christian Psychologists can’t provide a Biblical narrative for human sexuality while compliant with the America Psychological Association and yet  the work of TGC/ ERLC / CBMW and MANY  seminaries including SBTS and Covenant Seminary (PCA) in St Louis (where Revoice is being held) all welcome the work of Psychologist Mark Yarhouse who TGC commissioned in 2010.
In 2016 LOVEboldly did a conference called RESTORE with Mark Yarhouse and the formerly side B Celibate – suddenly flipped to side A gay affirming -Julie Rodgers . Rodgers was on staff at the Chaplains office at Wheaton until she flipped to affirm open homosexuality and gay marriage just after Obergefell SCOTUS decision . Rodgers is a personal  hero of many in the Revoice line-up though they claim adherence  to side B -celibacy or “mixed orientation  marriage “as their “Christian Sexual Ethic”  Mark Yarhouse develops ,including in his work for TGC/ Christ on Campus  Initiative for Trinity Evangelical Divinity School , the case for establishing the validity of Sexual Orientation and thus a Sexual Identity . He then facilitates the pathway to merging Sexual identity with Faith Identity equaling Gay Christianity or LGBT+ Christianity . Yarhouse most often prefers using the phrase “Sexual Minority ” in the church. He has also done extensive development of gender theory for the church and according to Dr. Albert Mohler , asserts that “Gender Reassignment surgery is the most viable answer for some who experience Gender Dysphoria “. Yet even Dr. Mohler who owns Sexual Orientation denies the possibility of Surgery as an answer to GD that reflects “a Biblical Worldview”. Still Dr. Yarhouse work is reflected and core to Revoice and LOVEboldly and much of the work of founder/ board member Collins. It should be noted that Julie Rodgers is soon to be married and her fiance ,a woman ,is tied to pro LGBT group the Human Rights Campaign.
RESTORE by LOVEboldly 2016
Dr. Mark Yarhouse
Mark Yarhouse, Psy.D., is the Rosemarie S. Hughes Endowed Chair and Professor of Psychology at Regent University. Dr. Yarhouse was named Senior Fellow with the Council of Christian Colleges and Universities Read More
Julie Rodgers
Julie works for restoration within communities that hope to learn from those on the margins. She has served as an advisor to sexual minorities at Christian colleges during a time of tremendous cultural Read More
YARHOUSE AND RODGERS ARE FOCUSED AS WELL ON YOUTH MINISTRY
MORE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN AND MATHEW VINES REFORMATION PROJECT TIES TO LOVEboldly / DEVOTED AND NATE COLLINS/REVOICE
Note that Christy Messick worked with both HRC and Mathew Vines Reformation Project
both of which are side A -fully affirming of LGBT+ marriage and sexuality .

Christy

Christy Messick is a graduate of Asbury Theological Seminary where she completed her Masters of Divinity in 2012. Christy has ministered in various national and international contexts and has a heart for LGBTQ+ youth and young adult discipleship. She has extensive experience working with those seeking to reconcile their faith and sexual orientations and has worked as a Fellow in the Religion and Faith Department of the Human Rights Campaign, located in Washington, DC. She participated in the inaugural Reformation Project, which seeks to transform church teaching on sexual orientation and gender identity. Christy serves as the editor of Owning Our Stories, a place where LGBTI people, their parents, and friends can own their stories by sharing it with others. She also blogs about faith and sexual orientation and serves as a founding board member of LOVEboldly (2011-Present). Christy lives in Georgetown, KY with her wife, Sarah.

NATE COLLINS AND RUSSELL MOORE’S ERLC:HOW CLOSE ARE THEY ? WHISTLE BLOWERS NEEDED. WHEN WILL THE FULL STORY OF ERLC COMPROMISE BE KNOWN ?
Nate Collins sees Russell Moores ERLC as an LGBT+ ally in his 2016 BLOG  entry .
“Give to a charitable organization that either helps LGBT people in crisis, offers Christ-focused support services, or promotes awareness, dialogue, and peace as genuine Christian values. LoveBoldly, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, and the Gay Christian Network are all good options, as well as the GoFundMe site for the victims and their families.
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LOVEboldly  Missions Statement

“Empowering willing Christians, LGBT+, and same-sex attracted individuals to step towards loving one another boldly.

Our vision is one in which reconciliation to God, self, and others at the intersection of faith, sexuality, and gender identity is made possible. We are deeply persuaded that agreement with one another’s political, theological, moral, or philosophical perspectives is not essential for moving towards loving one another boldly. Instead, we can emulate the God who moved into our neighborhood and befriended us while we were still God’s enemies. In an attempt to model God’s self-sacrificial love, demonstrated in the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Christ, we dedicate ourselves towards living the following values. ”

Further Values Stated by  LOVEboldly

Core Values

God moved into our neighborhood and befriended us while we were still God’s enemies. In an attempt to model God’s self-sacrificial love, demonstrated in the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Christ, we dedicate ourselves towards living the following values.

Offensive Sanctuary: We will not exclude anyone from the table or from the conversation, no matter how inglorious their presence may be.

Treasonous Friendship: We will not permit personal or communal loyalties to ideology, labels, or tribes to prevent us from befriending each other.

Conflicted Conviction: We will not trample over or ridicule each other’s beliefs, even though they make us wildly uncomfortable.

Subversive Listening: We will not ignore or invalidate each other’s stories, knowing that to listen is to invite change in the world’s systems and in ourselves.

Narrative Honesty: We will not shy away from honoring truth wherever it is found.

Insolent Kindness: We will not fail to be good to each other, always honoring the dignity and inherent worth of every human being.

Obstinate Loyalty: We will not give up on or dismiss each other, no matter how angry a conversation makes us.

THEOLOGY AND POLITICS ASIDE  TO GAIN THE “THIRD WAY”

Our Statement of Beliefs
We are deeply persuaded that agreement with one another’s political, theological, moral, or philosophical perspectives is not essential for moving towards loving one another boldly.

BRIAN MCLARENS ENDORSEMENT of LOVEboldly
“I’m a huge fan of LOVEboldly. They are accomplishing pivotal reconciliation work in the conversation on faith, sexuality, and gender identity. Their efforts make safe spaces for dialogue between LGBTQ and conservative Christians alike, breaking down stereotypes that often divide us.”
Albert Mohler commented on in 2005 on the destructive influences of Brian McLaren and yet his SBTS graduate and NT Instructor Nate Collins work is  endorsed by McLaren.

“McLaren effectively ransacks the Christian tradition, picking and choosing among theological options without any particular concern for consistency. He rejects the traditional understanding of doctrine as statements of biblical truth and instead presents a variant of postmodernism–effectively arguing that doctrines form a language that is meaningful to Christians, even if not objectively true. He claims to be arguing for “a generous third way beyond the conservative and liberal versions of Christianity so dominant in the Western world.” …

“The Emergent movement represents a significant challenge to biblical Christianity. Unwilling to affirm that the Bible contains propositional truths that form the framework for Christian belief, this movement argues that we can have Christian symbolism and substance without those thorny questions of truthfulness that have so vexed the modern mind.”

DESTROYING EXODUS INTERNATIONAL AND CONVERSION THERAPY – A MANDATE  CARRIED OUT BY ALAN CHAMBERS AND SOON ECHOED BY ALBERT MOHLER AND RUSSELL MOORE : LOVEboldly/ DEVOTED YOUTH PASTORS CONFERENCE NOW ALIGN .
Alan Chambers served as president of Exodus International for 12 years, garnering WORLD magazine’s “Daniel of the Year” designation in 2011 for upholding historic Christian doctrine teaching on sexuality and helping offer compassionate help for homosexuals who sought to leave the lifestyle behind. (https://world.wng.org/2011/12/2011_daniel_of_the_year) Shortly after that, Chambers began to reveal his new and troubling views on homosexuality, such as saying unrepentant homosexuals can be saved. Against the wishes of other Exodus leaders, Chambers shuttered Exodus in 2013, apologizing to the LGBT community for the “pain and hurt” Exodus had caused. Today, Chambers works openly as an LGBT activist, embracing so-called “gay” marriage , denouncing Reparative Therapy, Attending PRIDE Parades, and preaching at Washington National Cathedral during LGBT PRIDE month.
Chamber Biography  At DEVOTED Conference

Also Featuring Conversation Partners:

Alan

Alan Chambers is perhaps best known as the final President of Exodus International, the largest ex-gay ministry in the world, which he closed in 2013 with an apology for the harm he believes conservative Christianity has done to the LGBTQ+ community. He has been interviewed by nearly every major media outlet in the world and has authored 3 books including his recent memoir penned with his wife, Leslie, My Exodus: from Fear to Grace (Zondervan, 2015). Alan writes for magazines, newspapers, and online publications upon request. His family and friends know him best as Leslie’s husband, Isaac and Molly’s daddy, for his great sense of humor, love of decorating (both homes and people), and shoe collection. Alan serves as the President of The Alan and Leslie Chambers Foundation, a consulting and counseling outreach encouraging greater inclusivity for LGBT people in faith communities and providing support for individuals and families navigating the complexities of faith and LGBT realities. The Chambers are founding members of Grace Church and live in Alan’s hometown of Winter Park, Florida. Facebook: @AlanManningChambers and Twitter: @AlanMChambers

CHRISTIANS SHOULD CELEBRATE GAY PRIDE? REALLY?

LOVEbolbly And Nate Collins Advocate Christians  Attend /Participate in PRIDE Parades.

Few American Christians would ever consider attending or taking their children to a PRIDE event given the near nudity , Sadomasochistic displays , and historically offensive behaviors for which these events had become known. Yet LOVEboldly  participates .

A little rain won’t stop us from sharing God’s love at #CincyPride today!

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despite the fact the June events  mark the celebrations of the “Stonewall  Inn riots rooted in sexual liberation, gay prostitution , drug abuse , corruption between some NYPD officers and the Mafia who owned the Greenwich gay bars and exploited the gay community extorted closeted customers who patronized them.
Collins Blog Post June 13th 2016
“If your conscience permits you, attend a gay pride event this month. Not many straight conservative folks know that gay pride events commemorate the Stonewall riots that took place on June 28, 1969, and are an occasion for LGBT people to remember the violence against their humanity that that event represents. In my opinion, a conservative Christian can attend a gay pride event in solidarity with the shared humanity we all have as image-bearers of God”
LOVEboldly members are also is working with Jim Wallis Sojourners “Summit for Change “and Gay Catholic Jesuit Father James Martin.

Please join us in prayer as Heidi and Paula (our founder and a board member) are at the Sojourners#SummitForChange Gathering. Below is a from Heidi M. Weaver-Smith.

“Honored and thrilled to be part of the Sojourners #summitforchange gathering in D.C. this week, with so many great folks! Let’s get this party started!”

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“We are called to the wait of the Christian, which is called hope. It is an active waiting; it knows that, even in the worst of situations, even in the darkest times, God is powerfully at work, even if we cannot see it clearly right now.”

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We are called to the wait of the Christian, which is called hope.
LOVEboldly also participates in LGBT+ Lunchtime Bible Studies with Christ Church Cathedral .

“I haven’t been to a Bible Study in a decade.”

This is what one new friend told us today at the launch of our second Bible study for LGBT+ folks, many of whom often feel left behind or unsafe in their faith communities. We are very excited about how our little community is growing and for the chance to share God’s love with new folks!

We are grateful for this partnership with Christ Church Cathedral. What a blessing!

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COLLABORATION IS NOT ALWAYS SAFE AND SOUND OR HARMLESS
Nate Collins, though a Southern  Baptist Theological Seminary graduate and instructor
has no problem working on the Board , fundraising and speaking at conferences for LOVEboldy , involving themselves with  Brian McLaren, Alan Chambers, Sojourners (Jim Wallis ) , Gay Catholics ,even Jesuit Father James Martin ? Dr. Albert Mohler has no problem with his long time student/ recent graduate / and traveling SBTS scholar sporting credentials representing SBTS and Reformed Southern Baptist  movement’s flagship Seminary? When will it all be enough to persuade Dr. Mohler and others that their disciples are proving problematic enough to speak up? Will Albert Mohler, Russell Moore, ERLC/ TGC  , Tim Keller,  D. A. Carson others go along with the Revoice aims to target our TEENS in our own churches?
ON THE ROAD AGAIN WITH LGBT+ CHRISTIANS
Nate Collins and Gregory Coles are becoming well traveled leaders of the Revoice and Devoted youth movement. In a post on social media the two take a selfie and labeled  it “Roomies 2.0” as they appear to share a room for the night. This issue is not personal simply a matter of those who claim special status as sexual minorities in the church not aslo be allowed to be given exempt status on standards of personal ethics/ purity and the avoidance of the appearance of evil .

Roomies 2.0!

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Ray  did the room crumble beneath the amount of greatness that was in it?

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Ben  What sort of trouble are you two boys up too?

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Sharon They do have a sort of innocent yet mischievous smiles on them. 😁
This is , again, not an attempt to be personal and involved in private affairs of these two people but given claims by Albert Mohler and his circle of Revoice reviewers of the creators and speakers of Revoice “commitment to a Christian Sexual  Ethic” it is honest to ask “what other SBC/ PCA/ ERLC /TGC ministers would be allowed to room together as  a married Heterosexual man to a single heterosexual female who were traveling in ministry together . What other exception to the rules are expected for the church to make ? Again ,what about even the AVOIDING the mere appearance of EVIL?
Revoice speakers ,including Collins came down heard of Conservative Resurgence icon Paige Patterson in the Jonathan Merritt (pro LGBT+ / SBC writer) led assault with NO “selfie” picture of Patterson with a single young female room mate . Where is the fairness and Christian LOVE here? If this is not as implied – the two guys rooming together while traveling , perhaps Nate Collins and Gregory Coles can meet in an open forum with this writer and some other former homosexuals now born of the Spirit and identified ONLY as new creations  in Christ who were refused reservations for Revoice in St Louis . Many would welcome such a sit down for discussion/ debate and in an open forum for Q and A.

I haven’t shared nearly as many articles about recent revelations of sexism in the upper echelons of the Southern Baptist Convention as I’ve wanted to (#selfcontrol), but when I see female SBC leaders I respect amplify a specific perspective on the matter, I think it’s important to use my voice to support them.

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More than 2,500 Southern Baptist women have signed a petition denouncing denomination leader Paige Patterson.
CONCLUSION
The church is rapidly being taken into dangerous waters where entire denominations have crashed into the rocks of unbiblical /heretical assumptions  and been crushed by the winds and waves of prevailing cultural antagonism to God , the Gospel ,His Word and Christian Faith. What is most different here  today is the COMFORTABLE MIXTURE  of left  and right, or Biblical and extra biblical , theology and philosophy , deadly sexual ideology and boast of fidelity to creation, and above all the MIXTURE of DARKNESS  and LIGHT .
Add to that the fact that many of these players out to “Promote LGBT+ FLOURISHING  in historic Christian tradition ” come from our own conservative institutions and seminaries and wear the brand and approval and credentials of some of our most TRUSTED leaders like Albert Mohler, Russell Moore, Tim Keller and D. A. Carson. Where does it end ? If these leaders and others do not speak up- the movement behind Revoice will be in your church, your youth group and the hearts and minds of your teens  -brought to your HOME from the most unlikely source – your CONSERVATIVE BIBLICAL CHURCH !
This cannot be . IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THE LORD HIMSELF WILL ALLOW IT.
2nd Corinthians 6:14- 17  ” Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,”

 

 

 

REVOICE :ALBERT MOHLER AND THE MISSING LINK

REVOICE RESPONSE: ALBERT MOHLER AND THE MISSING LINK

By Rev Thomas Littleton

6/22/2018

The highly controversial Revoice conference is about a month away. We broke the story over six weeks ago, exposing Revoice and its stated goal of “Promoting LGBT+ Flourishing in historic Christian tradition.” Today the machinery of The Gospel Coalition and the Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission is in full swing attempting to “cover” the story in a way any trained media savvy believer would find disturbing. What IS NOW being said by TGC and ERLC is coordinated and calculated. What is NOT being said is intentional and dishonest.

First, little, if anything, was said in the weeks after our initial exposure of the conference on May 10. The first major outlet promoting Revoice was Living Out, the ministry of TGC editor and ERLC writer and speaker, Sam Allberry. His ministry is a collective of Same Sex Attracted gay priests from the UK / Church of England. Sam Allberry’s endorsement of Revoice was a massive red flag that signaled a broadening of the message of “SSA/ Gay Christianity” to the radical “LGBT+, Sexual Minority, Queer Christian” language of Revoice.

You can get full details of the disturbing connections in the original articles below:

Revoice Concerns

Revoice DNA

How Revoice concerns include the new SBC President, J D Greear

Efforts to ignore the Revoice story have failed, despite a media circus of the ERLC/TGC-driven takedown of Conservative Resurgence hero, Paige Patterson. Outlets within network began to “report” on the Conference. The article below provides links to all such responses from within TGC/ERLC network. What none of these responders do, including Albert Mohler, is ADMIT that the reason REVOICE was and remains controversial is that it is in CLOSE PROXIMITY to the heart of their own camp!  Do not miss that fact, of which they are attempting feverishly to keep you ignorant in the “comprehensive article” published by Colin Smothers.

PROBLEMATIC RESPONSES TO REVOICE

Denny Burk works at Boyce College and is a ERLC/TGC speaker on issues related to sexuality and LGBT as head of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. Collin Smothers, who compiles the articles and provides the critique above, also works for CBMW. Both are disciples of Dr. Albert Mohler of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Burk’s article was among the first responses posted on May 30th –almost 3 weeks after the story broke. It recommends a “wait and see” attitude regarding the Revoice Conference despite its radical language of “Queer Christianity” and “LGBT+ Christian.” In the Burk piece, he has the screen shot of a workshop titled “Redeeming Queer Culture an Adventure” which he inserted 24 hours BEFORE it appeared on the official Revoice website.  During a Twitter exchange, Burk was asked about the timing – how he had the new workshop screen shot in advance – after which he blocked the author of the question. In the days following, in Twitter streams among Revoice leaders and Burk, Denny messaged to one of the Revoice leaders that they should talk but not in the open Twitter stream. However, this issue should not have back room communications given its goal of changing the conversation (and teaching) of the Church and all conservative denominations impacted by it. Denny Burk echoes what Dr. Mohler has said on the topic of homosexuality in years past, as if sexual orientation, is the topic of Revoice. However, the language of Revoice – LGBT+ (sexual minorities) Christians / Queer Christianity – is radical, unheard of in the Church and represents uncharted waters for the Church.

Burk then turns attention toward speakers from past ERLC/TGC blogs and conferences, such as Rosaria Butterfield and Sam Allberry, but PASSES OVER the fact that Allberry was PROMOTING Revoice in early May.  Burk also points to Kevin DeYoung (who we will consider next) and references the work of CBMW in the Nashville Statement, which fails to denounce Gay Christianity and does not defend ministries that help people wanting out of the LGBT lifestyle. The Nashville Statement does, however, provide a safe MARKER for those who signed it as a “bold stand for Biblical MARRIAGE, sexuality and gender” when needed.

LOOK TO THE SOURCE – MARK YARHOUSE, THE MISSING LINK

Denny Burk NEVER mentions the ideological source of the Sexuality and Gender rhetoric and terminology for TGC and ERLC, which is Dr. Mark Yarhouse and his Institute for the Study of Sexual Identity. He does not mention that, way back in 2010, Dr. Yarhouse was commissioned by D.A. Carson to write a White Paper on the Sexual Identity for TGC and their Christ on Campus Initiative. Nor does Burk ever mention that virtually all of TGC /ERLC/ SBTS camp subscribe to Yarhouse’s promotion of Sexual Orientation which then led to establishing the concept of Sexual Identity. Given Yarhouse’s collaboration with the American Psychological Association and working with both Christian and Gay Psychologists, he then asserted the best path forward is merging a person’s “Sexual Identity” with their “Faith Identity” to establish a “Gay Christian Identity” along with its assorted self-identifiers like “Sexual Minorites,” “Same Sex-Attracted” and now “LGBT+” and “Queer Christianity.” Sam Allberry and Living Out are also subscribers to the Yarhouse-crafted Sexuality and Gender standards for The Gospel Coalition, and BOTH organizations promote Revoice.

Kevin DeYoung is a favorite of The Gospel Coalition and a recent convert from the Reformed Church in America to the Presbyterian Church of America. Since joining the PCA, he has become a go to representative of TGC.  One June 1, just days after the Burk article, DeYoung published his Revoice piece.  DeYoung focused much of his article on the issue of terms and labels and chose to do a five-point highlight of the term “Sexual Minorities.” He does a 360° around it as being the most problematic for Revoice. Two issues are glaring here.  DeYoung ignores ugly terms like “Queer Christian” and “LGBT+ Christian” and chooses to highlight “Sexual Minority.” WHY?  He, in fact, has actually used the FAVORITE term of Dr. Yarhouse in the White Paper.  How is it possible that DeYoung, being fully in step with and a member of TGC leadership, chose to focus on the less alarming terms and then failed to point out that the term he DOES find problematic is from The Gospel Coalition’s own 2010 standard?

GETTING COZY WITH THE CORE OF REVOICE MESSENGERS

Michael Lee Anderson was part of the Revoice Pre-Conference hosted by Spiritual Friendship and he is a contributor and partner with Mere Orthodoxy, so its article linked by CBMW and Collin Smothers IRONICALLY brings THOSE RESPONDING even closer INSIDE the network of Revoice. Does this networking provide “objective critique” of Revoice?  Mere Orthodoxy leadership is also very close to TGC editor and ERLC head messenger, Joe Carter, and provided a parody article of The Evangelical Deep State thereby giving cover to the Catholic Priest SJW, Father Robert Sirico, boss of Carter at Acton Institute. Acton’s man, Anthony Bradley, has been a vocal defender of Revoice. Linking to a Mere Orthodoxy article does not in the least help the effort of CBMW or Smothers to appear credible.

Richard Phillips’ article links to DeYoung’s problematic article, so the circular motion may by now be causing vertigo.

Tim Challies, who is a member of The Gospel Coalition, is promoting DeYoung and Burk’s articles on Revoice. This is all now clearly in-network, circular in-house, looking like DAMAGE CONTROL rather than honest assessment of Revoice.

On May 31, Owen Strachan of the Center for Public Theology at Midwestern Seminary provided perhaps the beefiest response to Revoice at that time from an inhouse source. Albert Mohler tweeted it out with the short offering of “Interesting Article.”

On June 11, the author of this article obtained an interview with Dr. Albert Mohler at the SBC annual meetings in Dallas Texas. You can listen to it here. The interview is at @minute 9 in this expanded discussion with Brannon Howse on the response of Dr. Mohler to Revoice.

NATE COLLINS OF DR. MOHLERS SOUTHERN BAPTIST THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IS THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF REVOICE  AND A SPEAKER.

Many eyes and ears have been focused on Dr. Albert Mohler of SBTS expecting a response to Revoice for the primary reason that a long-time student, New Testament and online Instructor / Garrett Fellow, grading papers and counseling students, is both the FOUNDER and PRESIDENT of Revoice and a Keynote speaker. Nate Collins is his name.

Nate who was, according to his bio, at SBTS for over 14 years also spent time traveling to the Evangelical Theological Society to present his many academic papers on the topics which feed into and have developed Revoice. Collins also cites Mark Yarhouse in his academic works and his book “All but Invisible.”

YET IN NONE OF HIS INTERVIEWS AND ARTICLES HAS DR. MOHLER EVER SPOKEN TO THE FACT THAT NATHAN COLLINS IS AN SBTS GRADUATE AND SCHOLAR!

Not even once!  Neither Dr. Mohler nor any of the articles linked above or the Smothers article go anywhere near this disturbing fact. Collins is also the son of Boyce College, former associate Dean Chip Collins. As a father and son team they worked together in a ministry called Aligned Grace for parents of “SSA/ Gay/ Homosexual but Christian” celibates. It is not possible that Collins, with this background at SBTS (14 years on campus) plus being the son of faculty in a high-profile ministry to parents of gays, is unknown to Dr. Mohler as a self-identified homosexual. Why did not even one of the other writers cited above mention this fact?  Why did they not make mention of Dr. Mark Yarhouse’s influence on TGC/ ERLC and Revoice?  Can it be that the REAL controversy is the close ties which the Revoice Conference has to SBTS, Mohler, ERLC, Moore TGC, PCA, Covenant Seminary, Tim Keller, and D.A. Carson?  The more this herd of writers ignore the obvious, the more obvious it becomes!

ERLC put out an article by Andrew Walker on June 22.  It is an emotional little piece about the confusion of and concern for teens over LGBT issues and speaks somewhat to problems with the terminology of Revoice but never mentions ERLC’s connections with an ERLC Fellow, Karen Swallow Prior, endorsing it and an ERLC contractor, Branden Polk, speaking at it.  No mention of ERLC involvement is a vintage case of EXTREME SELF DELUSION.  Neither Nate Collins nor Yarhouse are mentioned nor is Revoice mentor and ERLC contributor, Scott Sauls, whose involvement also brings with it the influence of Tim Keller of TGC and Sauls was also a speaker at Sam Allberry’s June 21 Living Out Conference while Allberry promotes Revoice.

THE SILENCED VOICE AT DALLAS SBC 2018: REFUSAL TO ENDORSE HETEROSEXUALITY AS NORMAL

All of these discussions of Revoice appear to be missing the reality that the issues of LGBT in the church could have been addressed in a truly Biblical framework at the 2018 Dallas SBC Convention. A resolution about how the church ministers to the LGBT community and aids those who want an exit strategy through the Gospel and the Church was ignored and along with it the hopes for restoration to a real Biblical sexuality i.e. heterosexuality and male /female gender norms. Therefore, “once LGBT always LGBT” is the SBC stance.  The resolution never made it to the floor in Dallas and hopes of preventing the loss of religious freedoms and preserving a truly Biblical pastoral approach for ministry to those wanting out of LGBT remains very much at risk.

  1. MOHLER, SAY WHAT YOU MEAN – CONDEMN OR CONDONE LGBT+ “CHRISTIANITY”

So, late in the game – six weeks later – on June 23, Dr. Albert Mohler finally penned a piece on Revoice for his Briefing radio broadcast, for the first time since the disturbing facts surfaced on May 10.  See section 3 “Such Were Some of You.”  In the broadcast, Mohler never goes any where near the source of the Revoice language and the author of TGC/ERLC gold standard on sexuality – Dr. Mark Yarhouse. Nor do ANY of these writers /researches/ apologist/ preachers in Mohler’s circles. We should all find the avoidance of Yarhouse disturbing, especially by Dr. Mohler after this writer asked him about Yarhouse and Mohler admitted to knowledge of him. Mohler then expressed concern that Yarhouse’s assertion, “for some who experience Gender Dysphoria, gender re-assignment is a viable option,” is problematic. Mohler asserted, “that could NEVER be seen as a Christian Worldview” in the interview. Then why follow ANY of the Yarhouse APA-based sexuality and gender standards?  If he has it wrong on Gender Reassignment why not stick with the Word of God as the Gold Standard on sexuality and gender, marriage and conversion?

Again, Mohler was also asked by this writer about Revoice Founder Nate Collins extended stay and work at SBTS and his ties to the ERLC. There was no comment then and Mohler never mentions them in this June 22 broadcast. AGAIN, these issues are part of the controversial nature of Revoice and the VERY REASON they are now collectively talking/ writing about it. YET they never mention ANY of it. NEVER. WHY?

WHAT IS SAID IS EVEN LESS COMFORTING

In the June 22 Briefing: “Such Were Some of You Language Matters and Always Matters,” by Dr. Mohler, he does make some interesting observations that fall far short of providing clarity.

  • Mohler admits that the “Revoice” name indicates that its organizers want to “change the voice” of Evangelicalism on matters of LGBT.
  • Mohler points out that so much conversation has taken place about a conference that has not yet been held, but never points out the source of the controversy, which is the SBTS/ ERLC/ and PCA/ Covenant ties to it.
  • Mohler says it is important to take the organizers at their word and he quotes the revamped longer and extended version of their mission, however, does not, nor do any of the writers above, bring out the original mission statement prior to the controversy which is: “Revoice is Promoting LGBT+ Flourishing in historic Christian tradition.” This earlier vision statement came with the broader explanation that the Church needed to welcome the LGBT+ community and had a great deal to learn from it. This error on Dr. Mohler’s part may come from being 6 weeks late into the conversation. Like Denny Burk, Mohler may be operating off the altered version of Revoice. Given they are changing the language, must we really take them at their word? Which one? The earlier version or the post controversy revamp?
  • Mohler attempts to say that the organizers adhere to a “Historic Christian Sexual Ethic” by professing “Celibacy” or a “Mixed Orientation Marriage” but this supposed “ethic “is from the Yarhouse camp of thought, NOT a Biblical one.
  • Mohler’s response approximates THE word for word defense which Nate Collins gave this writer when asked about his conclusions on Biblical Gender, based on the focus of his research papers. Collin’s answer was not directed at all to the question and he refused to talk further during efforts to reach out to him for answers.  Dr. Mohler says, as did Collins, that “the Bible restricts sexual activity to marriage between a man and a woman.”  Mohler also echoes the assertion of Revoice organizers that the Bible honors those with an extended commitment to Celibacy and that these two constitute a Biblical Sexual ethic. AGAIN, this comes from Dr. Yarhouse and similar psychologists who also work with the APA and gay psychologists. The Bible does not propose Celibacy as an answer to homosexual desires. The Biblical framework of celibacy is to provide undistracted attention to the kingdom of God by those who value their calling above the right to marry, and choose rather to be wholly dedicated to minding the things of God’s kingdom. Jesus and Paul both confirm this context for celibacy. The Catholic Church has made celibacy and ordination to the priesthood to be a haven for homosexual desires. It is NOT SO in the Bible. It seldom ends well.

“Mixed Orientation Marriage” is the other solution asserted by Yarhouse as a Biblical option or ethic for those who identify as Homosexual and Christian, like some in Revoice. Historically, such marriages do not END WELL either. This concept is not of Biblical origin but is part of the framework provided by the APA compliant White Paper of TGC.  What is LOST here is the failure of everyone involved to embrace the normal nature of Heterosexual love and relationships, while they embrace an ever stranger narrative normalizing suppressed same sex lustfulness as both normal and admirable. Heterosexuality is under the bus and so is the Gospel’s ability to restore souls to GOD’S design. What is wrong with holding forth Biblical hope or total deliverance and transformation and restoration? Why trash the Gospel to embrace APA/Yarhouse?

  • Mohler again asserted the faithfulness of the Revoice organizers to Biblical sexual ethic and asked, then why the controversy. He admits to the source of the controversy being the pervasive language yet ignored the fact that most of that language came from the Yarhouse/TGC White Paper and APA studies and that Mark Yarhouse endorses and promotes Revoice. Again, Mohler appears to be in avoidance mode.
  • Mohler’s conclusion for those Christians who would think biblically about this language is that “we must think clearly and compassionately.” He does not say how much of the radical language that he confirmed as intended to “change the voice of evangelicalism” on LGBT issues must be accepted as redeemable or useful.
  • On the topic of LGBT+, Gay Christian and the history of the use of terms like Sexual Minority, Mohler entered what one former homosexual minister called a “word salad” of confusing language of his own. He then bails out of the points and the confusion he has made by dropping back to the less offensive term of Sexual Minority (which carries with it the tone of Cultural Marxist victimhood and activist status but never mentions that fact). Mohler then defers back to Kevin DeYoung inhouse research that, again, avoids Yarhouse input.
  • Mohler then admits that the inclusion of “Queer Theory” and “Queer Culture” have brought us into “a new conversation.” Mohler only offers a clarification of the questions these terms raise and the importance of how we engage them. He offers no clarity toward answers.

THIS IS WHERE IT GETS REALLY WEIRD

  • Once Dr. Mohler quoted the reference to “the treasures Queer Theory and Culture will bring into the New Jerusalem” he then asserted that we “must look from the end of the Biblical story back to the story of creation and we have to understand that at least some of the speakers at the conference are arguing that in the garden, that is before the fall, there was some form of same sex sexual attraction, something that bears some kind of meaningful connection with what it now claimed to be LGBT identity.”

WHAT is He saying?  Why even go here?  What other Same-Sex person existed in the Garden for Adam or Eve to be attracted to? We teeter HERE on the ugly verge of “Queer Theology” which asserts that God Himself is some kind dual sexuality being. Why give voice to such heretical discussion in the name of giving clarity?  This just got so CREEPY, that those Christians who think Biblically, per Dr. Mohler, likely all want to leave the room. Does he then resolve this bizarre idea he just introduced?

Mohler quotes from Gregory Coles’ (worship leaders for Revoice) Book, “Single Gay Christian,” which is heartily endorsed by D.A. Carson, and then tosses in the statement “That is an astounding question.”

“One of the individuals involved in the conference and a book published just last year asked the question: ‘Is it too dangerous, too unorthodox, to believe that I am uniquely designed to reflect the glory of God? That my orientation, before the fall, was meant to be a gift in appreciating the beauty of my own sex as I celebrated the friendship of the opposite sex?’ That’s an astounding question.”

Is it really, Dr. Mohler?  Coles’ academic specialty is Minority Rhetoric and racial, feminist and gender theory. Either you just got played by Coles or you are using Coles’ quote to PLAY US!

  • The lingering discussion points of “biblical theology, sanctification, holiness, and the Gospel” do little to relieve the intellectual corner in which Dr. Mohler appears to have painted himself. You cannot apologize for being wrong about sexual orientation for all Christians in 2014 and dump conversion (therapy) overboard and then try and speak about sanctification to the LGBTs. Real people are being harmed in this adventure and foray into confused thinking out loud. Who got us here if it was NOT the endless muddled conversations of TGC/ERLC?
  • Mohler then appears lost in the maze of road blocks and dead-end trails from the Biblical and Gospel truth on Salvation, sanctification, redemption and transformation against the ever expanding and radical boundary pushing language of the sexual minority activists he appears to have played a part in training.

I am reminded of Jesus warnings to all of us about divided loyalties. Matthew 6:24: ″No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.”

Dr. Mohler, Moore, Keller, Carson:

You cannot serve the Lord and the goals of those whose money you are taking.

You cannot serve the Gospel and the American Psychological Association sexual ethic.

You cannot serve the Word of God and Mark Yarhouse’s marriage of identities and faith.

You cannot serve our seminaries and the distorted cultural perversions of normal.

You cannot serve the Church and flood our landscape with half truths and compelling questions while giving no real answers.

Choose today who you will serve. And hey preacher, “LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE.” THEY ARE NOT JUST ANOTHER BRICK IN YOUR WALLS!

Simply put, “This is the bed (of sexual conversation) these leaders, like Dr. Mohler, have made and NOW we must watch them wallow and stir restlessly IN IT” while attempting to bring clarity to it. It is painful and costly to watch, yet Christians just want Biblical CLARITY, which we are still not getting from these leaders. Yet there is plenty of discussion and, as Mohler and his disciples point OUT, Revoice has not even happened yet!