AFTER BEING BOOTED FROM THE ERLC, RADICALIZED LIBERAL ACCUSER RUSSELL MOORE JUST KEEPS EXPOSING HIMSELF.
Rev Thomas Littleton
Thanks to Albert Mohler who mentored employed and promoted Russell Moore for nearly 3 decades, Southern Baptist now have a well credentialed professional theological accuser in the public square to point fingers at them.
“Public theologian Russell Moore has long encouraged evangelical Christians to focus on practicing religion rather than engaging in culture wars, something he found increasingly difficult under former President Donald Trump. Moore left his leadership post at the Southern Baptist Convention earlier this year and now works for Christianity Today. He joined David to talk about how working for a conservative Democratic congressman on Capitol Hill reaffirmed his belief in the possibility of politics, why his dad didn’t want him joining the ministry, and why he felt compelled to call out issues he saw in the church, even as it led to his departure from the SBC.”
CNN COVERED THE INTERVIEW…WHICH WAS ON CNN.
“(CNN)Public theologian Russell Moore, a prominent evangelical leader who was an early critic of Donald Trump, says he doesn’t see support for the former GOP president waning and warns that it is “entirely possible” that Trump could seek the White House again and win.”I don’t think he’s had any change in terms of the support that he has. The question is, is there an alternative? And in looking around the Republican Party right now, it certainly is hard to see who could be an alternative for people’s- for people’s loyalty and votes. So I think it’s- I think it’s entirely possible that he could run in 2024 and win,” Moore said, speaking with David Axelrod on “The Axe Files” podcast.Moore said when he first spoke out in 2015 against then-presidential candidate Trump, most people in the evangelical social-conservative world, who would later be among Trump’s key supporters, agreed with him. But then, Moore said, he noticed a shift among evangelicals — “not because Donald Trump changed, but because he started winning.”
“He said he saw the decision as “choosing between my conscience under Christ and saying things that I didn’t believe. So it would have been- it would have been easy to say, well, this is who most of our people, this is who they’re with, and so I’m going to get on board. But to do that, I would have, I couldn’t have done it. I couldn’t have lived with myself,” he said.”
“Moore was heading the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, the public policy arm of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination. Moore left the role this year and now works for Christianity Today.”
WHO IS DAVID AXELROD?
“In 1984, David Axelrod’s campaign management team helped win Congressman Paul Simon a seat in the U.S. Senate. Axelrod has since led successful campaigns for numerous Democrats, and his client roster includes such names as Bill and Hillary Clinton. Axelrod has also gained national repute for helping African-American politicians get elected in landmark victories, most notably Barack Obama. Axelrod served as senior advisor to President Barack Obama, senior advisor to the Obama-Biden Presidential Transition, senior strategist to Barack Obama’s historic campaign for the presidency in 2008 and his 2012 re-election campaign. Today he serves as the Director, Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago.”
OBAMA CAME FROM THE CHICAGO POLITICAL MACHINE
Now Russell Moore shows himself at home in the realm of Chicago politics where he can bash Christians for their political views.
“The University of Chicago Institute of Politics occupies a rare place in America’s higher education landscape, offering our students pathways to civic engagement, opportunities for service, and a home for civil discourse and free expression.”
“The nonpartisan Institute of Politics is committed to fostering in our students a passion for public service, meaningful dialogue and active engagement in our democracy.”
RUSSELL MOORE IS ACTUALLY LISTED AMONG THE FELLOWS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO /AXELROD INSTITUTE OF POLITICS
“Public Theologian and Director of the Public Theology Project at Christianity Today”
“Through “Evangelical Religion in American Politics and Culture” seminars, he will speak to the complicated relationship between American religion – particularly in its evangelical Protestant form – and the current political and cultural landscape.”
Russell Moore also has his own new program called “The Russell Moore Show”.
MOORE AND MOORE TOOK THE LOW ROAD AS VICTIMS
“NASHVILLE (RNS) — Two of the best-known ex-Southern Baptist leaders in the country got together at a Nashville church on Thursday (Sept. 9) for a night filled with Bible verses, banter and bittersweet memories.”
“The event, entitled “Lessons in Leaving (and Staying),” featured Bible teacher Beth Moore and ethicist Russell Moore — and was the first live event for a new Public Theology Project from Christianity Today magazine, where Russell Moore landed after leaving the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.”
It is really all about politics isn’t it … and about the nasty habit of conservative Christians voting pro life pro family and Republican? In the end of the discussion it is really all about the political establishment of which Moore is a part, and their deep hatred of President Donald Trump and those Christians who support him.
Russell Moore is an avid “never Trumper” and a Mississippi Democrat. Now he is a full fledged member of the Chicago thug Democrat machine. Congratulations.
Moore has a need to be heard and Baptist have funded the need for years. Mike Huckabee famously ask “How long will Baptist pay Russell Moore to insult them?” At least now he is on Christianity Today’s payroll and whoever else will hire him to do what he does.
BOB ROBERTS AND MICAH FRIES NEVER SEEM TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE SOME NEW INTER-FAITH EFFORT. DAVID PLATT NOW JOINS THE MIX. THIS ONE IS JUST IN TIME FOR THE FLOW OF AFGHAN MUSLIMS IN THE U.S. AND A SIGNIFICANT INTER-FAITH POLICY SHIFT.
Rev Thomas Littleton
You may have read about the “Neighborly Faith” movement on Christian Campuses to teach about the Muslim faith to young Christians on Christian Campuses . Now some of the same Baptist are offering the latest movement in interfaith interaction to “build community”.
Enter Multi-faith Neighbors Network
TRANSFORMATION BEGINS WITH RELATIONSHIPS
MFNN builds mutual trust and respect among faith leaders through civic engagement, authentic relationships, and honest dialogue leading to resilient, compassionate, and flourishing communities.
“The brainchild of Pastor Bob Roberts Jr. and Imam Mohamed Magid, two prominent American religious leaders representing thousands of Evangelical and Muslim congregants, MFNN uses the extensive ties we have established with other faith leaders across the country to build bridges between religions.”
VISION AND MISSION
“JOIN TOGETHER ON THE THINGS THEY SHARE IN COMMON “
UPDATE – SINCE THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION HAS COME TO LIGHT .
A former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy who has testified before Congress and has investigated/ prosecuted terrorist in 2012 said the following about the Muslim World League :
Our Government and the Muslim Brotherhood My Speech in Washington
by Andrew McCarthy August 9, 2012
“…the Muslim World League in Saudi Arabia, (is) perhaps the most significant Muslim Brotherhood organization in the world.”
As recently as 2018 many others have testified before Congress that the Muslim Brotherhood is “GLOBAL THREAT” DUE TO IT’S MASSIVE SUPPORT OF TERRORISM .
So David Platt and Bob Roberts , along with these other evangelicals meeting with the “World Muslim League”, are collaborating with the “most significant Muslim Brotherhood organization in the world “.
HOW FAR WILL ROBERTS,FRIES AND PLATT TAKE THESE INTERFAITH EFFORTS?
The Charter of Makkah (Mecca, officially Makkah al-Mukarramah ) “On May 28, 2019, the “Charter of Makkah” was endorsed unanimously by an unprecedented group of the world’s leading Muslim scholars, who gathered in the Holy City for the promotion of moderate Islam. “The Charter of Makkah” offers Muslims around the world guidance on the principles that speak to the true meaning of Islam. The Charter of Makkah is orientated around the following principles: 1- All people, regardless of their different ethnicities, races and nationalities, are equal under God. 2- We reject religious and ethnic claims of “preference.” 3- Differences among people in their beliefs, cultures and natures are part of God’s will and wisdom. 4- Religious and cultural diversity never justifies conflict. Humanity needs positive, civilized partnerships and effective interaction. Diversity must be a bridge to dialogue, understanding and cooperation for the benefit of all humanity.”
THERE IS MORE ON THE CHARTER WHICH HAS 30 POINTS IN TOTAL.IT CAN BE FOUND IN WML LINK BUT THE MEETINGS PURPOSE WAS TO DISCUSS ENACTMENT.
WML met with American muftis, imams, and other leaders in Washington, DC to discuss Islamic affairs and preparations to enact the contents of the Charter of Makkah within societal and official frameworks
ROBERTS MULTI-FAITH NEIGHBORS NETWORK
“MFNN believes that equipping faith leaders to engage with leaders of other faiths can help build resilient communities.
MFNN believes that when Pastors, Imams, Rabbis, and other religious leaders come together to build relationships and learn from each other, they become models for their own faith communities. By way of example, they remove fear and increase understanding within their own faith communities.
MFNN believes that multi-faith relationships allow everyone to hold onto their own beliefs while still building deep bonds with other faiths and serving their city together. Faith leaders can be a powerful, moral voice in society. Working cooperatively, they can model the very kind of society and world that all of us are trying to build – one where community, cooperation, and the common good are respected.”
WHATS MISSING ?
THE GOSPEL FOR ONE
There is a long history of the failure of God’s people to remain faithfully exclusive to Jesus and salvation in no other name and “on mission” to preach that exclusive truth to all people. We have NEVER been called to “Build Community” with other religions and false gods. Is someone in the leadership so ignorant of or blind to the problems this created for old testament saints?
Jesus has not made the faith less exclusive but even MORE.
Acts 4: 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: 9 If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, 10 let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. 11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
YET BAPTIST LIKE ROBERTS AND FRIES MUST THINK THEY KNOW BETTER THAN THE APOSTLES AND THE WORD OF THE LORD.
“MFNN develops grassroots movements built on mutual trust and respect among individual faith leaders, their families, their congregations, and their broader communities. The Multi-Faith Neighbors Network initiative begins at the local level, in carefully targeted cities and towns across the United States and the World, based on polling data and the willingness of faith leaders and congregations to participate in this initiative.”
“We work with faith leaders to mobilize their congregations to use their vocation to serve others. Whether it is in their city or around the world, people of faith should be peacemakers by doing humanitarian projects together.”
“When pastors, imams, rabbis, and other clerics and religious leaders come together to learn from each other, they become models for their own faith communities.”
JUST IN TIME FOR THE FLOOD OF MORE MUSLIM REFUGEES
“Showing Hospitality to Strangers: Texas Churches Welcome Afghan RefugeesOur co-founder Bob Roberts Jr. says this moment may mark a change in how evangelicals think about refugees. “There’s a shift that’s taking place. We’re coming back to who we are”
“Multi-Faith Neighbors Network@MultiFaithNN · Oct 27 Muslims, Jews & Christians in Pittsburgh cooked welcoming meals to prepare for the arrival of 15 new Afghan refugee families. Incredible story of coming together regardless of faith background & partnering together for the common good & needs in our communities.”
Global Faith Forum
“The Global Faith Forum is a gathering of unlikely allies that venture down an unlikely path with the goal of building flourishing communities. We are moving from a conversation about others faiths, to a conversation with other faiths. A conversation that allows us to hear from those of different faiths, different worldviews, and different ideas that shape the way we communicate.”
“Featuring speakers like Christine Caine, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, Ambassador Sam Brownback, Nobel Peace Prize winner David Beasley, and others, it’s going to be a powerful time. There is no cost at all to attend the event, but registration is required and limited.”
“A Christian Theology of Multi-Faith Partnership“
by Micah Fries, Steve Bezner and Bob Roberts Jr
“Multi-faith is a challenge for many evangelicals. Evangelical Christians are not historically known to involve themselves in multi-faith, primarily out of a fear of sacrificing their evangelical distinctives and the exclusive truth claims of the gospel and as a result, evangelicals have unfortunately often created a subculture that isolates them from substantive relationships with people of other faiths. This is disconcerting as we believe both in multi-faith and the exclusive truth claims of Jesus as demonstrated in the Bible. We firmly believe that, not only are these concepts not in tension with one another, but they are in harmony with each other.”
“Multi-faith partnerships also serve to provide clarity between the Christian faith and other faiths, as well as strengthening our own faith. When we represent other beliefs outside of our own, too often we fail to do so in a way that those who embrace those other beliefs would affirm. This is often an act of dishonesty. As Christians we must tell the truth. It is difficult to know the truth apart from interaction with those we are trying to understand. It is also difficult for those who disagree with us to know what we believe, unless we have a relationship with them as well. There is also a tremendous benefit to our own faith when we examine it, and have it examined, by those who do not hold to the same set of beliefs that we do.”
SPORTING THE GRAND DECEPTION
“RELIGIOUS FREEDOM FOR ALL“
“At the heart of the American ideal, since its foundation, has been the principle of religious freedom. This commitment owes its foundation and strength, in large part, to Baptist pastor Roger Williams who demonstrated, theologically, that religious freedom is a biblical expectation. We believe that faith is a personal decision, and that each person must make a decision for themselves, without coercion, that determines what they believe. [Romans 14:5, 1 Corinthians 10: 29] Because we believe that this decision must be made without coercion, and that each person is eternally responsible for their own decisions, faith must then be allowed to exist on a level playing field. We do not believe that any faith should be prioritized or privileged over another. To do so would be to lean into coercion, and it would also deny our fundamental faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ. This appeal is also rooted in the dignity of every person. Each person is created by God with inherent worth and value and that worth is demonstrated by each person’s own volition.”
THE GRAND JUSTIFICATION OF MODERN DAY ERROR
WORKING FOR THE COMMON GOOD
“This is an often overlooked, and yet vital component of our collective Christian responsibility, and has been throughout Christian history. Through the years Christians have been involved in starting hospitals, universities, facilities for the aged, and orphanages. These are all activities that serve the common good, and which care for those who are in need. The commitment to serve the common good is evidenced in both the Old and New Testaments. God called the exiles in Babylon to live in such a way in their ungodly community so as to cause the blessings of God to be present. [Jeremiah 29: 4-14] We are told that our responsibility as followers of God is to pursue good, and not evil. We are to seek justice. [Amos 5: 14-15] Our pursuit of good government is an example of the biblical and necessary responsibility to pursue the common good of society.”
PARTNERS AND LIKELY FUNDING
BUILDING RESILIENT COMMUNITIES
“We have partnered with organizations such as the Templeton Religion Trust, the Doha International Centre on Interfaith Dialogue, The Institute for Global Engagement, Forum for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies, El-Hibri Foundation, and continue to partner with similar organizations to build relationships between clerics – that spreads to grassroots action – in order to bring down tensions and build flourishing communities.”
THE SINGLE BIGGEST FALSEHOOD
Most of these focus , especially those based on refugee resettlement are funded by large government grant programs and therefor prohibit ” “, any explicitly religious activity, giving away Bibles, Bible Studies , prayer, or similar activities.
Yet Multi Faith Neighbors network claims the work is a Gospel opportunity.
LOOK HARD BUT YOU WILL NOT FIND A CLEAR GOSPEL MESSAGE IN THE WORDS BELOW.
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR FAITH
“Our faith is best shared in the context of relationships. Like most any other piece of good news, while it is certainly possible for us to share it outside of a relationship, it is not as certain that it will be meaningful outside of a relationship. As evangelicals who believe in the importance of sharing our faith, multi-faith partnership provides a level playing ground where we can hear from and learn about the faith of others, but it also provides a unique opportunity to share our own faith with those who are interested. We believe that sharing the gospel is a responsibility of the follower of Christ. [1 Corinthians 9: 16] We believe that the gospel is a message for all people. [Romans 1: 16] Our declaration of the gospel is rooted in our desire to share with others the encouragement and hope that we have received from the gospel. [1 Peter 3: 15] Further, the gospel is rooted in God’s love for the world and is intended to be expressed as a depiction of our love for the same world. [John 3: 16] Multi-faith partnerships, then, provide an opportunity to build real, genuine friendships with people of other faiths, where they have the opportunity to share with us about why their faith is meaningful and significant in their lives, and we, in turn, can share with them about how the gospel has been transformative in our lives. This opportunity also exists to share the gospel in a way that the gospel is not artificially advantaged. Christians in America, in particular, seem afraid of placing the gospel on the same level with other beliefs, which seems to betray a lack of confidence in the gospel. We believe that the gospel is beautiful and should be able to be seen as such when placed on a level playing field beside other faith traditions. [Romans 1: 16]”
At no place in the New Testament do we see Jesus or the Apostles engaging in community building with the plentiful rival religions around them. NONE- EVER. The modern day narratives of evangelical leaders like Roberts and Fries serve to build one of the globalist grand deceptions of a false GLOBAL SPIRITUALITY ” and have nothing to do with the true Gospel or the exclusive and eternal HOPE it offers only in JESUS.
PAUL WAS NOT COMMUNITY BUILDING ON MARS HILL AMONG THE IDOLS
Addressing the Areopagus
22 “Then Paul stood in the midst of the [a]Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; 23 for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription:
“TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.”
“Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one [b]blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
LAST WEEKS ANNOUNCMENT TO END THE MOVEMENT AT THE “TOGETHER FOR THE GOSPEL” EVENT INDICATES THE OPPRESSIVE REGIME MAY BE COMING TO AN END.
Rev Thomas Littleton
At the recent T4G Conference Mark Dever and Ligon Duncan announced that the events will end in 2022. Christianity Today reported on the Neo Calvinist news story.
T4G Conference Will End in 2022
“With another cofounder leaving, Together for the Gospel prepares for its final event.”
REALITY CHECK FOR NEO CALVINIST !
No amount of explaining or excuses can deflect the hard reality that all is not well in the Neo Calvinist world. The false social justice gospel heralded by the overlapping leadership of T4G and The Gospel Coalition have taken a hard hit and suffered major divisions and defections since the failed 2018 TGC/ERLC co-sponsored event MLK/ 50 . That event in Memphis was said to mark 50 years since the death of Martin Luther King Jr. but in fact was a full reveal of the long cloaked and often denied false gospel of the Neo Calvinist behind the Young Restless and Reformed movement.
Leaders like Mark Dever of 9MARKS , Albert Mohler of SBTS and Ligon Duncan of RTS have long enjoyed unquestioned respect and recognition as conservative theologians. But their conservative credentials failed to provide sustainable cover for their radical departures from the Gospel and even historic Reformed Theology. Trust faded as they descended into the false “Faith And Works ” social justice economics, Diversity Equity & Inclusion cultures and “Equity” -re distribution mission of their movement.
FROM THE CT ARTICLE
“The popular reformed evangelical pastors conference Together for the Gospel (T4G) will hold its final gathering in April 2022, following the departure of one of its founders, Albert Mohler.”
“Dever, Duncan, Mohler, and C. J. Mahaney developed the idea for T4G out of their friendship in ministry. They held the first T4G conference in 2006, drawing 3,000 attendees.”
“We were all surprised how many people came,” said Dever, who leads Capitol Hill Baptist Church in Washington, DC.”
MAHANEY AND MOHLER ARE ALREADY OUT
C J Mahaney’s participation ended ,sort of belatedly, after a rather disgusting sex abuse and coverup scandal .
Mohler is now leaving according to CT. “
“The end date for T4G comes as Mohler, the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, moves on.”
“In a video discussion on the T4G site, Dever said Mohler recently told them, “Brothers, I love you guys very much, but I’ve just got to do other things now.” Dever and Duncan cited Mohler’s involvement with a new opinion section at World magazine and his role in the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), which is facing deepening divides and institutional shakeups.”
SOUTHERN BAPTIST DIVIDES ? YES AND MOHLER DISCIPLES ARE AT THE EPICENTER
Yes the SBC has problems and much of it is due to Albert Mohler’s long list of Social Justice warriors like Russell Moore who spent 24 years at SBTS as a student, professor, dean and provost. Moore also spent a disaster filled 8 years at the ERLC misrepresenting Southern Baptist and is now being sued by a former member of the SBC Executive Committee for defamation after Moore’s “leaked emails” somehow found their way to his good friends at secular news outlets like the Washington Post.This was all just in time to impact the SBC annual meeting and the Presidential race for head of the SBC in 2021 .This was a race in which Mohler himself was running and lost by a shamefully distant and telling 3rd place despite his protege’s efforts to vilify Mohler’s key opposition.
Mohler disciple Moore was part of the planners of MLK/50 at which he had accused Baptist in the South of “Worshipping Jim Crow as Jesus “. Moore and Mohler never backed off their narratives and by June in Dallas TX for the annual SBC meetings they were pushing Critical Race Theory (CRT) openly with multiple SBTS professors in tow. By 2019 this same Mohler CRT team of SBTS profs were heading the SBC Resolutions Committee which altered a resolution condemning CRT and Intersectionality into affirmation of them as “Analytical Tools” with the Gospel. CRT has since become THE core issue dividing both the SBC /PCA and even the general public related to education. Secular media has now been covering the broader controversies over CRT among it’s top stories almost daily for over a year.
Mohler and his underlings simply had the SBC early to the issue and ahead of the curve with its deceptions by several years.
Also by 2018 a 15 year Mohler disciple and SBTS New Testament teacher Nate Collins had launched the Revoice “LGBT+ Thriving in Historic Christian Tradition ” movement which further shook up both the SBC and PCA confidence in their “conservative ” theologians. Unless you can agree that “Queer Culture and Queer Theory” will bring with them “treasures into the New Jerusalem” and that the “Nuclear Family is an Idol” as 1990s Feminist Theologians asserted , then you cannot help but reject Revoice or the Seminaries like SBTS and the PCAs CTS who incubated and supported it. The radical LGBTQ “Christianity ” movement came home to roost with the Neo Calvinist who helped birth it.
The full hand of intersectionality against Southern Baptist has yet to be played . Intersectionality engages the kind of feminism behind the Me-Too movement which Mohler and friends look to have used to remove another Baptist seminaries leader /non Neo Calvinist Paige Patterson from office as President of SWBTS.
Mohler called it:
“The Wrath of God Poured Out—The Humiliation of the Southern Baptist Convention.”
That was May 2018 but efforts to platform the Wrath of God blew up once the SBTS Revoice ties were exposed and simply would not go away. The Patterson story faded and only with the February 2019 Houston Chronicle SBC Sex Abuse Scandal ( the one Mohler protege Moore is being sued for defamation over related to his accusations and leaked emails ) brought the Me-Too movement and the obviously expected “women’s empowerment ” movement back into full swing aimed at the SBC.
WHAT OF LIGON DUNCAN ?
Ligon Duncan’s PCA denomination is in a similar pickle due to MLK/ 50 and the resulting exposure of CRT and of the tolerance and outright promotion of the Revoice movement as well.
Duncan famously declared in the face of the groundswell of controversy that “Ligon Duncan ain’t groovin with no Cultural Marxism “. But of course he was even if he did not understand it given that CRT has it’s origins in Cultural Marist ideologies.
(From the CT article on Duncan)
“In 2018, Duncan repented of racial blindness and discussed his friendship with African American pastor Thabiti Anyabwile, who spoke at T4G events from 2008 to 2018. David Platt preached from Amos on race, asking why so many evangelical churches and ministries, including T4G, were so white.”
The country boy “ah shucks” manner of Duncan often makes him the object of jokes even in his own reformed circles and to further detail his failure to resist the invading forces which are likely dismantling their Neo Calvinist movement would almost seem cruel and unfair given his apparent limited ability to understand it .
MARK DEVER AND 9 MARKS HAVE BEEN DUMPSTER DIVING
DEVER AND MOHLER HISTORY
Mark Dever must see the handwriting on the wall that God’s judgement is on their movement and it is collapsing.
It was Dever who first said in 2017 Phoenix SBC annual meetings that Mohler was a liberal theologically in his undergraduate days and made such a radical shift to the right that his liberal base thought he was faking it and following the prevailing winds in the SBC. These revelations were in an interview with Tom Ascol of the Founders Movement . Founders is a more historic Reformed movement in the SBC of which Mohler has long been a part. Of course none of Mohler’s remaining faithful flock have connected the fact that Mohler was a student at SBTS while it was on its death slide into liberalism. It was Mohler who is credited with saving the SBC flagship seminary from liberals grasp yet he began immediately turning out and promoting liberals like Russell Moore into SBC LEADERSHIP.
That is all a lot to think about and digest so take your time.
Back to Dever
Mark Dever’s Capitol Hill Church and 2 other 9MARKS affiliates were the first state side group of churches to bring in the Church of England / TGC/ Tim Keller/ Living Out promoted “LGBTQ inclusion Church Audits ” to force conservative churches into welcome & inclusion, Sharing Children with and hiring LGBTQ staff.
Dever also has his own version of Russell Moore in the 9MARKS editor Jonathan Leeman, who Dever ( and not Leeman’s own TGC or 9MARKS bios) revealed is a graduate of Fabian Socialist place of origin London School of Economics. Leeman, like Moore loves to accuse Baptist and other Christians of things like “Christian Nationalism ” and “Waging a Culture War” for having biblical convictions which are reflected in their worldview, appreciation for America or voting for people like President Donald Trump.
Dever, Leeman and the 9MARKS crew LOVE to lecture on and promote their version church leadership THEY call “Plurality of Elders”. The assertion is that this is the Biblical model for the church. But for any who have experienced it’s (and TGC in general) tyrannical and oppressive applications against concerned believers and whistleblowers -the lack of Biblical basis becomes obvious and the reality of it’s extreme abuses equally as glaring.
In fact the Neo-Calvinist mode is built on being extremely abusive and deceptive. While it promotes itself as a conservative theological movement- it in fact betrays itself by it’s own teachings and political focus as a progressive political movement seeking social change …NOT Gospel transformation.
MORE FROM THE CT ARTICLE AND THE SHUT DOWN OF T4G
“Mohler said in a statement to CT, “Each of us faces questions of urgency and priority in life and ministry. At this stage in my life, I need to concentrate on helping the SBC and working on some important new priorities, including WORLD Opinions.”
“Ligon Duncan and Mark Dever are two of the closest and dearest friends I ever hope to have on earth,” he said, “and I pray God’s blessing on the T4G 2022 gathering, which will be a tremendous blessing to pastors.“
“Pastors David Platt and Alastair Begg were added to the April 2022 lineup, with Mohler taken off.”
TGC/ YR&R LEADER CONFIRMS TO OBVIOUS TO CT
“The Gospel Coalition’s Collin Hansen, in a tribute to T4G, called it “the visible manifestation of the ‘Young, Restless, Reformed,’” the name of his book about the movement, and celebrated it as an early gathering place for Reformed pastors.”
“Dever and Duncan said there’s something exciting, or even freeing, about it being their final conference.”
“They emphasized being able to use the T4G stage to introduce new, lesser-known speakers this year who aren’t on what Duncan called the “celebrity circuit.” Four of 14 plenary speakers in the 2022 lineup are African or African American.”
“I’m pretty pumped about this being the last one and maybe being the best one,” Dever said.”
What is likely happening is that T4G and TGC are not able to deliver the kind of influence they once peddled for their backers and TO the aging YR&R base. In short they are exposed and Christianity Today is pretty much admitting it.
The party is over. The attendance is likely down and made the conferences no longer profitable. Perhaps they are just tired of hearing their own voices in the echo chamber. It is highly likely that they just know that to continue will mean even greater exposure leaving little hope of living out their days as some icons of Neo Calvinism. Also it just might be that the whole smelly mess corrupting evangelicalism for the last decade and a half is being completely collapsed by Divine Judgement and also that Mohler was half right but just missed the reality that God’s target was not the resurgence old guard but was actually the Neo-Calvinist themselves.
We can thank God for that and pray for His mercies to restore the damage the Neo Calvinist have done for so many years.
Vision of Israel’s Corrupt Leaders
11 “The Spirit then lifted me up and brought me to the eastern gate of the Lord’s house, which faces east, and at the gate’s entrance were 25 men. Among them I saw Jaazaniah son of Azzur, and Pelatiah son of Benaiah, leaders of the people. 2 The Lord said to me, “Son of man, these are the men who plan evil and give wicked advice in this city. 3 They are saying, ‘Isn’t the time near to build houses? The city is the pot, and we are the meat.’ 4 Therefore, prophesy against them. Prophesy, son of man!”
AS THE SBC SEXUAL ABUSE LAW & INVESTIGATIVE PARTNERS TAKE SHAPE THE END OF THE CONVENTON LOOKS TO BE NEARER THAN EVER. WHO IS DIRECTING THE DECISIONS AND FINDING THESE SECULAR LGBTQ, DIVERSITY, INCLUSION SPECIALIST FOR DETERMINING THE FUTURE OF AMERICA’S LARGEST PROTESTANT GROUP ?
Rev Thomas Littleton
As the weeks pass and the full range of partners at the table with the Southern Baptist Conventions independent task force and investigation partners come to the table the less the investigation looks like a search for justice for abuse victims and the MORE it appears to be the SBC is being positioned for it own demise.
One example as a basis for such concerns is the CHOICE of the SBC Task Force attorney firm who celebrates the following on its website:
“We contributed to the landmark case in Hong Kong concerning LGBT+ rights – QT v. Director of Immigration. The ruling paves the way for greater LGBT+ equality in Hong Kong.
We have joined the Human Rights Campaign in a new initiative to pursue strategic litigation in U.S. state and federal courts to address discriminatory actions against the LGBTQ+ community.
Our Firmwide Managing Partner, Gideon Moore, was part of the delegation that attended an exclusive meeting at the Vatican to present a preliminary research report on the human rights abuses that arise from the criminalization of same-sex acts in the Caribbean.
We were named as a Stonewall’s 2019 Top 100 Employers for LGBT people in the UK.”
Not everyone would be sad to see the Southern Baptist taken to the woodshed by the Diversity and Inclusion specialist law firms and the independent investigation partners “mosaic of diversity and innovation” culture . But the really odd part of recent revelations it that the SBC leaders look to have delivered themselves up to secular partners and allies who do not share their own core values in the least. You would expect the opposing law firms in the pending class action suit representing the victims to take this line of attack to plunder the massive treasuries of the Convention. BUT there is a BIG problem with these kinds of allies on your own team. Why say this? Because these words and ideas espoused by the partners tend to reflect political and social agenda’s not justice. They certainly do not reflect the Gospel or the original mission of any protestant denomination.
You may say the SBC deserves it and it’s demise is coming at it’s hand but whoever is choosing these firms and solution partners for SBC leaders -or whoever is encouraging them toward these partners looks to be ensuring a major failure of the entire process. Political ideologies cannot bring about true justice. They only twist it.
THE CURIOUS CASE OF THE CASE AS IT SHAPES UP.
HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN AND DIVERSITY PULSE ALLIED LAW FIRMS
You can read about he two law firms partnering with the Executive Committee and the Task Force here:
THE SBC ABUSE TASK FORCE INVESTIGATING PARTNER
A quick look at the partner chosen by the Task Force for the investigation causes further concerns about the players on the inside. Again who is directing the SBC leaders decisions toward these partners?
Baptist News Global reported on September 10th 2021 that the task force had hired the same firm the Executive Committee had sought to hire. Is there not a problem with objectivity for this partnership as the internal battles develop?
“SBC task forces hires the same investigative firm the Executive Committee wanted but on different terms”
“The independent firm originally hired by the Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee to investigate itself has been chosen for that task again — this time by the special task force created by SBC annual meeting messengers in a rebuke to Executive Committee leadership.”
“The letter of engagement with Guidepost Solutions, however, makes clear that the investigation into possible mishandling of sexual abuse claims will occur fully independent of influence by the Executive Committee and its leadership.”
The concerns over a problematic outcome to the investigation surfaced in the annual Convention and continue to be discussed in media reports like this one in Baptist News Global. BUT according to some the process appears to be ensuring greater transparency. What does not look reassuring is the compatibility of this partners vision and the Christian Convention and the over 47,000 churches it represents.
“A mosaic of diversity and innovation.”
“Guidepost Solutions fosters an inclusive environment of professionals who share common values of diversity and equality. We treat each other with respect. We listen to and learn from one another with compassion and empathy. We encourage diverse viewpoints as we provide innovative solutions for our clients’ complex challenges.”
“A dedicated Diversity + Inclusion Committee brings our team together by offering educational presentations, open platforms for listening and discussion, and learning opportunities. We incorporate these activities into our workday and beyond.”
THE GUIDEPOST SOLUTIONS VISON AND MISSION LOGO
“Many of our team members are actively involved in community organizations and programs supporting diverse communities. Some include:“
“Human Rights First works to create the political environment and policy solutions necessary to ensure consistent respect for human rights — whether protecting refugees, combating torture, or defending persecuted minorities.”
TYPICAL OF TODAYS CORPORATE WORLD BUT NOT REASSURING
Though these kinds of values and vision statements are typical in todays corporate climate the SBC looks to have either failed to recognize that such statements reflect something deeper than mere words or the SBC are being misled by someone inside their own inner circles.
THE SBC LOOK TO HAVE COME TO THE DANCE WITH SOME ONE ELSE GIRLFRIEND.
In light of the Executive Committee law firm’s HRC / PRO LGBTQ stance and the “Diversity and Inclusion Pulse” of the Task Force law firm- the decision to engage Guidepost with its “Mosaic of Diversity” looks to be troubling indeed. The SBC leadership look to be in over their heads if no one noticed the clash of cultures in the partners they have chosen.
Something feels OFF here in the entire process and raises concerns of a predetermined outcome that will have more to do with the demise of the Southern Baptist Convention via the political and cultural forces and ideologies long opposed to it and little to do with the actual justice for the actual victims of abuse.
Many are expressing concerns. These CULTURAL realities among the partners and allies chosen so far look to confirm the concerns.
One has to ask “where is the Gospel in all of this ?” or maybe that should have been asked by Baptist leaders long before it ever got to this stage in the process. Again “Who is directing these decisions and setting this trajectory on the inside at the SBC?”. That person or persons should NOT be trusted.
You can read a more on the Task Force choice of law firm at Capstone Report
“Why are Christians using worldly, unbiblical outsiders in dispute with the Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee?”
MANY LAW FIRMS HAVE SUCCUMB TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN INCLUSION METRICS OVER THE YEARS. BUT WHY IS THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION HIRING A LAW FIRM WHO BOAST ABOUT IT’S HRC /LGBTQ APPEASEMENT?
Rev Thomas Littleton
The Southern Baptist Convention is in a nasty internal brawl with how it will handle sex abuse and allegations of long term cover up of it. Even Baptist are confused about what is going on with all the players in the room. For example the seminary heads who historically are under the directorship of mentor Albert Mohler are making open demands of the leadership in the Executive Committee. The central issue at the moment is about calls for the Executive Committee to “waive attorney client privilege ” so as not to impede the investigation by a recently appointed “Task Force”.
According to “The Baptist Paper ” on September 21th -the SBC executive Committee and others involved in the “task force” investigation into the years long sexual abuse and coverups have approved the hiring of a major law firm to help with the investigation.
THE LAW FIRM NAMED WHO WAS HIRED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
“The survivors as well as friends attending with them said they are hopeful as they prepare to watch the business proceedings take place again today. Some also noted they understood the need for the Monday afternoon executive session. The executive session was approved 54 to 23 in order to discuss the situation with attorneys from the law firm of Locke Lord, a firm recently hired with the approval of the EC officers.”
BAPTIST GLOBAL MEWS PROVIDES THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
“…However, one of the Executive Committee attorneys, Paul Coggins of Dallas, “rejected the offer of speaking with our attorneys in the meeting and also rejected their opinion that the task force could be the contracting party for the investigation,” the statement continues.”
“Coggins, an attorney with the law firm Locke Lord in Dallas, based his opinion on the judgment of longtime SBC attorney Jim Guenther of Nashville, according to the task force.”
SOME HISTORY ON THE SBC ABUSE SCANDAL :
According the to the Houston Chronicle who first reported the sexual abuse and coverup scandal in 2018 -there are hundreds (over 700 ) of abuse victims .Many of these were children at the time. Based on other media reports and statistical realty -some are same sex sexual abuse. Sex with minors is still classified as pedophilia .But you are not likely to see words LIKE THAT OR homosexual used in any of the SBC stories.
SO WHY IS THAT?
Another good question might be “why was this law firm chosen?” when it expends a significant amount of its webpage introduction to its “LGBTQ INCLUSIVE CULTURE and Human Rights Campaign awards for Corporate Equality Index” in 2021 and for “five consecutive years?
PERHAPS SOUTHERN BAPTIST LEADERS INVOLVED IN THIS CHOICE MAY DO WELL TO RESPOND .
Lock Lord Law Firm website :
“Locke Lord is a premier full-service Am Law 100 law firm that has earned a solid reputation for complex litigation, regulatory and transactional work on behalf of clients in important and growing industry sectors around the world.”
“Throughout our more than 130-year history, we’ve cultivated partnerships with a broad range of public and private companies, from Fortune 500 leaders to startups and emerging businesses. Our team can design strategic solutions that meet your long-term goals no matter how large or small your matter, applying our established tradition of responsive, personalized service.”
“At Locke Lord, our diverse and inclusive culture of collegiality and collaboration — core values of the Firm — across all of our offices and practices is ultimately reflected in our client experience by culminating in a deep understanding of our clients’ businesses.”
“Corporate responsibility is also an important part of Locke Lord’s mission as we reach out to the communities we serve in meaningful partnerships and pro bono work.”
LOCKE LORD CELEBRATES SEVERAL CORPORATE ACHIEVMENTS WHICH FEATURE ITS LGBTQ AWARD FROM HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN
January 28, 2021 – “Locke Lord has achieved a 100 percent rating in the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) Foundation’s 2021 Corporate Equality Index (CEI) for the fifth consecutive year. A perfect score in this annual report evaluating policies and practices related to LGBTQ employees, culture and corporate social responsibility earns the Firm the distinction of being an employer of choice for LGBTQ employees.”
“With each passing year, we continue to hone our focus on the Firm’s core value of diversity and inclusion, which is integral to our business and culture and essential to our success. We are extremely proud to achieve our fifth consecutive perfect score on the CEI — the result of our unwavering dedication to creating a welcoming environment for all of our attorneys and team members,” said Locke Lord Chair (name).
“We are once again honored to receive this recognition from the HRC. Our ongoing strong performance on the CEI underscores our deep commitment to LGBTQ equality at Locke Lord, in the legal profession as a whole and in the communities in which we live and work,” added Locke Lord Senior Partner and Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer (name )”
“Locke Lord predecessor firm Edwards Wildman earned a 100 percent rating in the HRC Foundation’s CEI for seven consecutive years from 2009-2015. The Firm and its attorneys have a long history of supporting LGBTQ civil rights and health care organizations, including the LGBTQ Bar Associations, GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders (GLAD), Fenway Health, Human Rights Campaign, AIDS Action Committee, Imperial Court of New York, Equality Illinois and Mainers United for Marriage.”
“Diversity and inclusion is one of the Firm’s five core values and an integral part of Locke Lord’s strategic plan. Locke Lord understands that fostering an inclusive environment results in better decision-making, better outcomes for clients and a firm where team members can be successful and thrive. To read more about Locke Lord’s commitment to diversity and inclusion, click here.”
About Locke Lord LLP “Locke Lord is a full-service law firm with global reach and 20 offices designed to meet clients’ needs in the United States and around the world. The Firm has a history that spans more than 130 years and is a leader in the middle market arena. Locke Lord focuses on providing the highest levels of commitment, quality and service to clients across its five Key Sectors: Energy and Infrastructure; Finance and Financial Services; Insurance and Reinsurance; Pharmaceutical; and Private Equity. In addition, the Firm advises clients across a broad spectrum of other industries, including fund formation, venture capital, health care, public finance, real estate, technology, cybersecurity and white collar, while providing a wealth of experience through its complex litigation, intellectual property, tax, regulatory and transactional teams.”
THE SBC HAS FEATURED SEVERAL ABUSE SURVIVERS BUT SO FAR NONE HAVE BEEN FROM THE LIST OF SAME SEX OR HOMOSEXUAL ABUSE.
In spite of almost weekly reports of same sex abuse of children by pastors, including Baptist /SBC pastors and the original reports having indicated this reality- NONE of the SBC / ERLC/ Press featured survivors have been from same sex abuse. None of the abusers of survivors (who were children) at the time are being named as pedophiles.
AT ONE TIME A WEBSITE DEVOTED TO “STOP THE BAPTIST PREDATORS” LINKED TO THE ONGOING NEWS STORIES OF PEDOPHILE AND HOMOSEXUAL ABUSE CASES.
That site was folded into another abuse survivor site several years ago.
Are the SBC / the Executive Committee /The Task Force leaders blind to the reality of same sex sexual abuse in their midst or have they hired a law firm which boast its inclusion and HRC awards for some other reason?
SO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON?
Will those victims/ survivors of same sex abuse also be included in the impending CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT ? Or will they continue to be ignored and further abused by a culture of “inclusion” that winks at inconvenient facts?
FROM THE 2018 HOUSTON CHRONICLE 3 PART SBC SEX ABUSE STORY
“Houston Chronicle: Abuse of Faith Series on the SBC”
“It’s not just a recent problem: In all, since 1998, roughly 380 Southern Baptist church leaders and volunteers have faced allegations of sexual misconduct, the newspapers found. That includes those who were convicted, credibly accused and successfully sued, and those who confessed or resigned. More of them worked in Texas than in any other state.
“They left behind more than 700 victims, many of them shunned by their churches, left to themselves to rebuild their lives. Some were urged to forgive their abusers or to get abortions.”
Where are the rest of the victims/survivors and when will their presence be acknowledged ?
HRC AND THE SBC HISTORY:
HRC has a long history of attacking Southern Baptist for their biblical stance on sexuality and gender. HRC has been working since 2014 with Project One America ” to press their cause in the deep South states where the SBC churches are mainly located.
HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN EVEN HAS A GUIDE AND SCORING METRIC FOR BAPTIST
“The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, with over 16 million members, has discriminated against gay and lesbian people for more than a quarter-century”
ON SEXUAL ORIENTATION & GENDER IDENTITY
“In a 1996 “Resolution on a Christian Response to Homosexuality,” the SBC declared that “even a desire to engage in a homosexual relationship is always sinful, impure, degrading, shameful, unnatural, indecent and perverted.”
“In the 2000 Baptist Faith and Message statement, the SBC equates “homosexuality” with adultery and pornography, declaring, “In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose … all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality and pornography.”
“The SBC calls on its members to a “love the sinner but hate the sin” approach and affirms the possibility of reorientation from same-sex attraction and supports “ex-gay” ministries. As the SBC website states: “Christians can, and should, minister to homosexuals in a kind, yet firm manner. The church should never turn its back on homosexuals who are searching and seeking to heal the hurts within their lives. … While God hates the sinner in his sin, we are called to love the sinner and hate the sin. In doing so, Christ can work through our lives to touch those lost in a world of confusion and darkness.”
“Likewise, the SBC website also asserts: “We affirm God’s plan for marriage and sexual intimacy – one man, and one woman, for life. Homosexuality is not a ‘valid alternative lifestyle.’ The Bible condemns it as sin. It is not, however, unforgivable sin. The same redemption available to all sinners is available to homosexuals. They, too, may become new creations in Christ.”
“At the 2012 SBC Annual Meeting, the SBC passed a resolution affirming “that gender identity is determined by biological sex and not by one’s self-perception—a perception which is often influenced by fallen human nature in ways contrary to God’s design (Ephesians 4:17–18).”
“In 2017, top leaders of the SBC joined ined other evangelical leaders in a statement Aug. 29 denouncing LGBTQ people and their identities as “inconsistent with God’s holy purposes in creation and redemption.”
ON MARRIAGE EQUALITY
“In 2003, the Southern Baptist Convention issued a statement reaffirming its opposition to marriage equality. It called on “Southern Baptists not only to stand against same-sex unions but to demonstrate our love for those practicing homosexuality by sharing with them the forgiving and transforming power of the gospel of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).”
“At at the 2012 SBC Annual Meeting, the SBC also reiterated its opposition to frame marriage equality as a civil rights issue.”
“The SBC does not support anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQ people and opposes LGBTQ equality. to the current repeal of the policy “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” that prohibited LGBTQ individuals to serve openly in the military.”
“In June 2010, a resolution (On Homosexuality and the United States Military) passed that states: “we oppose changing current law to normalize the open presence of homosexuals in the armed forces, and insist on keeping the finding of Congress that sustains current law, which states that even ‘the presence in the armed forces’ of persons demonstrating ‘a propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts’ creates ‘an unacceptable risk to . . . the essence of military capability.’”
“The Southern Baptist Convention does not ordain openly LGBTQ people, nor does it ordain women. However, alternative Baptist denominations such as the Alliance of Baptists do ordain both women and LGBTQ people.”
IN 2014 HRC ATTACKED THE SBC AFRESH WHILE IN REALITY WERE INVITED TO A MEETING WITH KEY LEADERS LIKE RUSSELL MOORE OF THE ERLC AND ALBERT MOHLER.
As Southern Baptists Meet To Talk Same-Sex Marriage Strategy, Don’t Be Fooled By “Softer” Rhetoric
October 27, 2014
SBC Remains One of Nation’s Most Virulently Anti-LGBT Denominations
“WASHINGTON – As members of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) gather today in Nashville for a conference aimed at devising strategy to combat the movement toward marriage equality for LGBT Americans, the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) Foundation has called for an end to the denomination’s vilification of same-sex couples.”
“Though the SBC has characterized the conference, organized by its Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, as an effort to find new ways to discuss the growing acceptance of marriage equality, there should be no confusion that its well-publicized campaign to mask harsh LGBT rhetoric does not represent change in either practice or policy.”
“The head of the HRC Foundation’s Religion and Faith Program, who is attending the conference, said: “LGBT people are routinely spiritually, emotionally, and even physically harmed by the rhetoric that originates in church pulpits and seeps into playgrounds, classrooms, workplaces, and even into dinner table conversations.”
SBS LEADERS WELCOMED HRC LEADERS WHO STILL MADE A SHOW OF FIERCE OPPOSTION
“The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) may be dressing up its upcoming conference with “softer” rhetoric, but SBC policies and practices remain the most stridently anti-LGBT among religious organizations in the U.S.”
“A sampling of typical LGBT animus from ERLC/SBC this year alone: *ERLC President Russell Moore announces a conference to ostensibly help pastors answer community questions and asserts that “homosexual behavior is still a sin,” and “same-sex marriage Biblically forbidden.”
WALL STREET JOURNAL, WHO HAD LOVED MOORE’S MORE “WINSOME TONE” TOWARD THE LGBTQ ISSUES TOUTED THE ERLC/HRC MEETINGS AS A BREAKING OF BREAD CELEBRATION
Southern Baptists, Gay Community Break Bread at Conference
Baptists Strike New Tone on Homosexuality From the Pulpit, in Private
YET MOORE AND OTHER LEADERS MET BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITH HRC LEADERS.
According to HRC individual reports and to social media of activist in the LGBT camp – the ERLC head Russell Moore all met together behind closed doors to chat it up …about about …well no one outside the room has ever been told and NONE OF THE BPATIST LEADERS PRESENT has ever written about this private meeting .
YES A SECRET PRIVATE MEETING WITH SBC LEADERS AND HRC IN TOOK PLACE IN 2014
Albert Mohler who admitted to “being wrong about homosexual orientation” at the 2014 PUBLIC meetings departed from his long held position that orientation was a “construct of homosexual activist hermeneutic to undermine the authority of scripture and it’s clear condemnation of homosexual behavior”. Mohler sited his concern of how his denial might make some people feel in his flip flop of convictions about the Bible vs “orientation”.
MOHLER HAD MET PERSONALLY WITH ANOTHER LGBTQ ACTIVIST THE SAME WEEK
“Mr. Mohler, head of the theological seminary, said he hoped the conference would make Christians “motivated to be unafraid to engage with LGBT persons.”
“Mr. Mohler this week met with Matthew Vines, an openly gay Christian author who argues the Bible doesn’t prohibit lifelong same-sex marriage. Mr. Mohler wrote a response to Mr. Vines’ book, “God and the Gay Christian.”
“It was a gracious, honest conversation. I think all evangelical Christians are having to learn anew how to discuss these issues,” Mr. Mohler said.”
“The pair agreed to keep in touch over email, and alert each other if one ever felt wrongly portrayed by the other.”
“This was an amazing event,” said Mr. Vines. “Not for the public sessions but for the private meetings. It’s not like anyone is suddenly pro-gay,” said Mr. Vines. But, he added, “it feels like a new era.”
( From the 2014 Wall Street Journal Article)
HRC AND OTHER SOUTHERN BAPTIST HISTORY
In 2009 the Obama Administration brought faith leaders together in his Faith Based Neighborhood Partnerships overhaul and grant program. The SBC Executive Committee CEO at the time Frank Page joined the Obama team for the Faith Based Partners grant programs. SBC moved into position to find “common ground for the common good ” and the common motivation of grant money from tax dollars for community development and other related projects. Among the partners the SBC CEO Frank Page sat down along side was the leader of the Human Rights Campaign Religion & Faith Program,
Harry Knox Director, Religion and Faith Program, Human Rights Campaign Foundation
Dr. Frank Page Pastor, Taylors First Baptist Church; President Emeritus, Southern Baptist Convention
(Page was also the CEO of the Executive Committee until forced to step down years later due to an unspecified moral failure)
THE TASK FORCE SELECTED ITS OWN PRO LGBTQ LAW FIRM
(Information from Baptist Global News coverage of SBC meetings)
“The task force explains this matter in its Sept. 29 letter: “The task force retained our own legal counsel, Linklaters attorneys Adam Lurie and Richard Smith. Both men are former senior Department of Justice officials with extensive background also in corporate law. “
“LINKLATERS BOAST “DIVERSITY & INCLUSION IS THE PULSE OF OUR FIRM”
We want to be known as the ‘best in class’ firm for Diversity & Inclusion – a diverse and inclusive workplace where everyone feels they belong, and diversity is celebrated.
“We know that our differences make us a better law firm. Our diversity enables us to attract the best talent, drive innovation, and deliver the best experience to everyone who comes into contact with us. That’s why being a leader in Diversity & Inclusion is an integral part of our firm’s vision and strategy. As a responsible business, it is important to us that we represent the diversity of our people, our clients and our communities, and that we create an inclusive culture in which everyone – regardless of background, identity and circumstance – can reach their full potential.”
“GLOBAL PRIORITIES OF THE FIRM INCLUDE LGBT “
Strange days have indeed found the Southern Baptist Convention during it’s sexual abuse scandal and the efforts to see it investigated.
So the Southern Baptist Convention and many of it’s key players in the sex abuse scandal investigation have a long and curious history with the LGBTQ lobby and Human Rights Campaign in particular. NOW they are adding to both that history and the curiosity surrounding it by overlooking or omitting or blind to the same sex sexual abuse in their midst -while in the middle of the present investigation into the abuse. And by choosing a law firm which boast of its own inclusion and diversity and multi year AWARD WINNING STATUS with HRC, the Southern Baptist investigation is beyond the bounds of curiosity and falls far short of the integrity the Task Force and the Southern Baptist leadership are saying they seek to ensure in the investigation. The combined realities actually INVITE and provide massive license for suspicion and outright doubt over the entire process and intentions. And the surviving victims look to be set up to be abused all over again.
A Tree Known by Its Fruit
33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.””